February 18, 200521 yr QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) The frisbee is nice, but this year, I expect hitters to sit back and wait for it, he's gonna throw you one or two per at bat. I know it's a big adjustment for hitter, but I fear hitters are gonna start tattooing it for like 500 ft. homers. I wonder what that would do for Shingo's confidence. That's what people kept thinking about Foulke too...
February 18, 200521 yr Lets go with the obvious. A pitch that the japanese leagues are famous for. THE SHUTO!!!!!!!! shuto: a variation on the screwball that is popular among Japanese pitchers Japanese to English baseball terms Edited February 18, 200521 yr by southsideirish71
February 18, 200521 yr QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Lets go with the obvious. A pitch that the japanese leagues are famous for. THE SHUTO!!!!!!!! shuto: a variation on the screwball that is popular among Japanese pitchers Could be, but would Don Cooper know the pitch?
February 18, 200521 yr QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 05:51 PM) That's what people kept thinking about Foulke too... Good point and I don't want to open the 'did Foulke suck?' debate up again, I've seen it beaten to death. We saw hitters catch up to Foulke at times for a little while there, he adjusted and came back strong. It seems Shingo is trying to stay ahead of the game, good idea.
February 18, 200521 yr QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) Could be, but would Don Cooper know the pitch? He developed it in the offseason. I believe Shingo went back to japan during this offseason. Cooper IMHO has few missions this spring. Convince all the pitchers to keep the ball down. Get the pitchers to throw inside a bit to offset their offspeed. Keep Contreras from falling in love with his splitter. That is all he has to do.
February 18, 200521 yr And I dont believe it is very easy to hit a 50 mph pitch 500 ft. Its easier to go yeard when the ball has something on it. But if they sit back, he will "blow" his fastball by them. 1, 2, 3, He gone
February 18, 200521 yr QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) All I know is that if it is a cutter he better not go off and hurt himself with it. The last thing we need is for him to mess up his arm trying to throw it. The screwball is the toughest on the elbow, I believe. Is there even anybody in MLB who throws one now?
February 18, 200521 yr QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) Keep Contreras from falling in love with his splitter. Contreras is going to be project for Cooper. Besides keeping him from using the splitter too much, he also needs to help Contreras get is fastball over the damn plate because thats one reason he used his splitter so much last year.
February 18, 200521 yr QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) The screwball is the toughest on the elbow, I believe. Is there even anybody in MLB who throws one now? Jim Mecir throws one. The crewball is not that hard on the arm. It is just very difficult to throw with any command.
February 18, 200521 yr QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) The screwball is the toughest on the elbow, I believe. Is there even anybody in MLB who throws one now? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I could've sworn Johan was using one last season.
February 19, 200521 yr QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 17, 2005 -> 11:03 PM) Maybe something crazy like a screwball..... Does it go 103 MPH? I know of a poster here who would love that.
February 19, 200521 yr QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 06:00 PM) Keep Contreras from falling in love with his splitter. that is the biggest thing that he must do this spring imo. I remember that Texas game when jose only lasted like 1 2/3 innings or something, all the spilt finger pitches he threw were way to low or they were belt high
February 19, 200521 yr I think it's a screwball. If it is that's great. The Knuckler would be great too, but I don't know how much of it would work against lefties.
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