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Game Thread 5-4-05 Sox .vs. Kansas Shitty

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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 4, 2005 -> 07:59 PM)
Could be better...

:crying The team's 19 and 7 and we're arguing about a long reliever who's era is under 4, it really doesn't get much better then that.

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f*** Botch....send him to the minors. He is so useless

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 4, 2005 -> 09:04 PM)
:crying The team's 19 and 7 and we're arguing about a long reliever who's era is under 4, it really doesn't get much better then that.

:notworthy

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ May 4, 2005 -> 10:05 PM)
f*** Botch....send him to the minors. He is so useless

Please don't tell me your talking about Shingo...

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ May 4, 2005 -> 08:05 PM)
f*** Botch

That nickname has already been used, try again.

Politte does the job, paging quickman.

 

Here is the thing about Cotts, he has 7 walks in 7 innings. In his defense, he hasn't pitched much.

 

But he's supposed to do the job and the last thing you want is a guy to walk the only hitter he faces. 7 walks in 7 innings is too much.

 

Whether they do anything about it, who knows. The issue is, who do they have that's better? I don't think Walker is setting the world on fire in AAA.

Jon Adkins is getting rocked at Charlotte, BTW. Adkins isn't all that much better than Cotts, if better at all...

Offense does nothing in that inning, the Sox are trying to hang on here.

QUOTE(JimH @ May 4, 2005 -> 08:08 PM)
Offense does nothing in that inning, the Sox are trying to hang on here.

New York Yankees designated hitter Jason Giambi left the game due to an injured head. .............

thats what you get for using roids

I bought the Hardball Times Bullpen book, and last year, they have Adkins at a WPA (Win Probability Added) of .024 per game, with Cotts at a worse .038. However, they also have Cotts pitching in higher pressure situations -- making the two about equal. Cotts has a better fastball, plus he's lefty. He gets the nod as the last guy in the 'pen, in my book.

I miss Hawk so bad. DJ is bad enough with Hawk, but without Hawk he's down right TERRIBLE.

QUOTE(JimH @ May 4, 2005 -> 08:07 PM)
Politte does the job, paging quickman.

 

Here is the thing about Cotts, he has 7 walks in 7 innings.  In his defense, he hasn't pitched much.

 

But he's supposed to do the job and the last thing you want is a guy to walk the only hitter he faces.  7 walks in 7 innings is too much.

 

Whether they do anything about it, who knows.  The issue is, who do they have that's better?  I don't think Walker is setting the world on fire in AAA.

Here's my thought on Neal, I really think when he pitches he should start his own inning. It seems it takes him a batter to really get his pitches down. If we need to get a lefty out during the later innings it should be Damaso or Luis not Neal. Neal is up here because every teams needs a long reliever and Neal's our guy. He's the 6th guy out of our pen and he's a pretty damn good one if you ask me.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ May 5, 2005 -> 02:07 AM)
Please don't tell me your talking about Shingo...

 

No I mean Neal Cotts....err...I mean Neal Botch

Donn with an interesting and smart point. He says that a lot of times, the tougher outs are in the seventh and eighth innings, not the ninth. So, why not use your better relievers in those innings?

QUOTE(daa84 @ May 4, 2005 -> 09:09 PM)
New York Yankees designated hitter Jason Giambi left the game due to an injured head. .............

thats what you get for using roids

He got hit in the face with a pitch.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2004 @ May 4, 2005 -> 08:12 PM)
I miss Hawk so bad.  DJ is bad enough with Hawk,  but without Hawk he's down right TERRIBLE.

 

I think he's been doing pretty well..... :huh

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ May 5, 2005 -> 02:13 AM)
No I mean Neal Cotts....err...I mean Neal Botch

 

Maybe Vinny Castilla can cure our bullpen 'problems'... :rolly

The name 'Botch' has been retired because no one will ever be that bad again.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 4, 2005 -> 09:13 PM)
Donn with an interesting and smart point.  He says that a lot of times, the tougher outs are in the seventh and eighth innings, not the ninth.  So, why not use your better relievers in those innings?

Which is one reason why I think the save stat is tremendously overrated.

 

The only I can figure is as a pitcher records more saves (even if he isn't a closer) he'll command more money because of that stupid stat.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 5, 2005 -> 02:14 AM)
Maybe Vinny Castilla can cure our bullpen 'problems'...  :rolly

 

:headbang

Damaso just embarrased Angel that ab.

I have always said closers are over rated and if managers had any sense they would bring in relievers based on when the best hitters were due in the line up

Pall's making some very good points now, it's just his voice isn't great for the gig. DJ is also doing much better in the lead role than I would have imagined though. All of Hawk's s*** breaks are paying off.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ May 4, 2005 -> 09:15 PM)
:headbang

:headshake

Hermanson coming in now.

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