http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=2055896

"When are people going to realize that Mark Buehrle is one of the best pitchers in baseball?" asks David Wells. "He is my pick to win the Cy Young with 22 or 23 wins."

The best praise Buehrle can get is from his peers.

Not Gammons, not ESPN, no one.

 

Praise from someone like Wells says something.

Wells helped Buehrle in 2001, didn't he?

Wells helped Buehrle in 2001, didn't he?

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How? Did he give him beer money? Cuz that's all Boomer did in his short stay in Chicago -- drink.

WTF?

WTF?

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Nice to see Mark gettin some love from other players, even if it's Wells.

How?  Did he give him beer money?  Cuz that's all Boomer did in his short stay in Chicago -- drink.

In all fairness, he had serious back problems throughtout his days on the South Side. I;m glad MB is getting props from the real experts.........the players.

In all fairness, he had serious back problems throughtout his days on the South Side. I;m glad MB is getting props from the real experts.........the players.

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Yes, serious back problems because he was a fat, drunken slob. This is the same guy who criticized Frank for not playing hurt. And what happened to Wells that season? Yep, he got hurt and didn't play for the rest of the season. Where is David Wells right now? Yep, on the DL for the Red Sox. "Boomer" likes to run his mouth but he doesn't back it up. :headshake

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Yes, serious back problems because he was a fat, drunken slob.  This is the same guy who criticized Frank for not playing hurt.  And what happened to Wells that season?  Yep, he got hurt and didn't play for the rest of the season.  Where is David Wells right now?  Yep, on the DL for the Red Sox. :headshake

 

 

 

True. But other than that year and now, he's been fairly durable.

I agree with all the positive sentiments in this thread. Praise from the real experts, aka the players, is what counts the most. Nice to hear what David said about me ... err ... Mark

As much as I don't like Wells, Buehrle has given him a lot of props for teaching him a few things during his one year stint with us.

 

I am not surprised at all by this comment.

Sox fans are talking all kinds of s*** because ESPN refuses to make Baseball Tonight all White Sox, all the time. But when an ex-teammate of Buehrle's gives him the recognition everyone here wants to see Baseball Tonight give Buehrle, everyone jumps his case and calls him names.

 

Makes sense

 

Maybe a few of these to my cranium will make me see this backwards logic.

Sox fans are talking all kinds of s*** because ESPN refuses to make Baseball Tonight all White Sox, all the time. But when an ex-teammate of Buehrle's gives him the recognition everyone here wants to see Baseball Tonight give Buehrle, everyone jumps his case and calls him names.

 

Makes sense

 

Maybe a few of these    to my cranium will make me see this backwards logic.

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It's nice that Wells gave Buehrle some props but he's still a fat, drunken, hypocritical slob.

As much as I don't like Wells, Buehrle has given him a lot of props for teaching him a few things during his one year stint with us.

 

I am not surprised at all by this comment.

 

I'd have to think -- just by observation, not that Buehrle or Wells said this -- but, the two have similar curveballs. Slow, pitches with big breaks. Not sharp, but just big and loopy.

I'd have to think -- just by observation, not that Buehrle or Wells said this -- but, the two have similar curveballs.  Slow, pitches with big breaks.  Not sharp, but just big and loopy.

Nah, that's not it, Wells helped Mark with his diet.

Yes, serious back problems because he was a fat, drunken slob.  This is the same guy who criticized Frank for not playing hurt.  And what happened to Wells that season?  Yep, he got hurt and didn't play for the rest of the season.  Where is David Wells right now?  Yep, on the DL for the Red Sox.  "Boomer" likes to run his mouth but he doesn't back it up. :headshake

So what you're saying is, you'd fight through that hangnail and post on Soxtalk?

Actually, I do remember Mark saying that he learned a lot of Boomer. While Boomer is a tub-o-goo, he still knows a s*** load about pitching, and I think that rubbed off some on Mark.

Not sharp, but just big and loopy.

 

Keith, thats describing Wells' gut....

If you have the stuff Wells does, you either have to have some Crisco or Vagisil hidden well on you, or you have to know a hell of a lot about pitching.

 

He is the walking, talking definition of the crafty lefty.

Just a hunch, but Buehrle won't come close to winning a Cy Young with Johan Santana in the American League.

 

That and Buehrle is not an ace pitcher and you don't win Cy Youngs with ERAs like 4.14, 3.89 or even 3.58.

Just a hunch, but Buehrle won't come close to winning a Cy Young with Johan Santana in the American League.

 

That and Buehrle is not an ace pitcher and you don't win Cy Youngs with ERAs like 4.14, 3.89 or even 3.58.

 

Highest ERAs for Cy Young Award Winners:

 

1. Lamarr Hoyt 3.66 ERA, 1983 White Sox

2. Roger Clemens 3.51 ERA, 2001 Yankees

3. Jack McDowell 3.37 ERA, 1993 White Sox

4. Pete Vuckovich 3.34 ERA, 1982 Brewers

5. Roy Halladay 3.25 ERA, 2003 Blue Jays

6. Steve Stone 3.23 ERA, 1980 Orioles

7. Pat Hentgen 3.22 ERA, 1996 Blue Jays

8. Whitey Ford 3.21 ERA, 1961 Yankees

9. Early Wynn 3.17 ERA 1959 White Sox

10. Jim Lonborg 3.16 ERA, 1957 Red Sox

 

No representatives from the NL. Steve Carlton has the highest ERA at 3.10.

 

If Mark can keep his ERA at around 3.40 with 20+ wins, he definitely has a shot. He might not be a total stud SP like Jason Schmidt, Johan Santana, etc, but he's damn near ace-caliber.