With Ozzie as manager we should all know the answer.

 

Timo.

 

actually you're right, but its worse than that. timo will close, but every 5 days he will ALSO start. fills in 2 holes at once! he's such a great utility guy like that

I don't think it's because he's "jumping ship" though.. I think it's because he realizes that he's not going to be part of the furture there.

 

Saying he "wants out" is different than "understanding how baseball works." If he understands how baseball works, he can still want to stay in Oakland but still accept the fact that he's got to go. It says he wants out.

I think also one of the other things to take into account is what happens if Shingo gets his act together? That will only give the Sox a little more flexibility to do what they need and or want to do...

4 man.. 

I'm not comfortable with that at all..

dont worry, a couple of beers will loosen you up.

Saying he "wants out" is different than "understanding how baseball works."  If he understands how baseball works, he can still want to stay in Oakland but still accept the fact that he's got to go.  It says he wants out.

 

the quote from HIM says he understands how baseball works

 

the quote from WHOEVER says he wants out...

 

hmmm

4 man.. 

I'm not comfortable with that at all..

Buehrle would love that... he has said many a times how he would love to pitch in a 4 man rotation...

I think also one of the other things to take into account is what happens if Shingo gets his act together? That will only give the Sox a little more flexibility to do what they need and or want to do...

all it takes it throwing the breaking balls for strikes and hes got it together.

Buehrle would love that... he has said many a times how he would love to pitch in a 4 man rotation...

 

 

 

 

 

it wouldnt be too hard to do either... you'd just have to work it right with the off days for contreras basically

Edited June 2, 200520 yr by Reddy

Saying he "wants out" is different than "understanding how baseball works."  If he understands how baseball works, he can still want to stay in Oakland but still accept the fact that he's got to go.  It says he wants out.

 

 

Ok, ok, ok....

 

Agree to disagree..

 

 

Sheesh..

Is it uncommon for good players to want out of bad teams?

 

No, it's not. I'm just supporting what I said in the beginning because people jumped all over it.

I think also one of the other things to take into account is what happens if Shingo gets his act together? That will only give the Sox a little more flexibility to do what they need and or want to do...

 

Big if, IMO.

all it takes it throwing the breaking balls for strikes and hes got it together.

Exactly...Shingo also needs to get more than 1 inning a week as well to stay effective... I unlike a lot of others am not ready to give up on Shingo because he has sucked thus far...last year he showed he could pitch here.

No, it's not.  I'm just supporting what I said in the beginning because people jumped all over it.

Regardless, I hope he is fueling the movement to get him out of there, whatever brings him here is good for me. This guy would fit in so well its unbelieveable, he is a clubhouse guy, would work for us offensively and defensively and would allow us to unload double play konerko next year.

the quote from HIM says he understands how baseball works

 

the quote from WHOEVER says he wants out...

 

hmmm

 

I said earlier that it's probably both. I'm just pointing out that it says exactly what I said.

Regardless, I hope he is fueling the movement to get him out of there, whatever brings him here is good for me.  This guy would fit in so well its unbelieveable, he is a clubhouse guy, would work for us offensively and defensively and would allow us to unload double play konerko next year.

 

With as much as I hate Crede, I think you know that I'm also happy that he's urging to come here. = me.

No, it's not.  I'm just supporting what I said in the beginning because people jumped all over it.

 

If you were Chavez, would you rather sit back and collect 10 mil a year on a constantly rebuilding club(lets face it, Oakland is gonna have a rough couple of years ahead of them regardless if Chavez is traded or not.) or press for a trade to a competing team?

 

To me, it doesnt seem like he wants to jump off a sinking ship as much as he wants to compete for something. It just happens that the sinking ship is facilitating the need to compete. Loyalty means nothing in the game anymore, im not going to start holding it against someone now.

With as much as I hate Crede, I think you know that I'm also happy that he's urging to come here. = me.

Oh, i know. I know you will be smiling as much as I will if this goes down.

A few things:

*The sox won't go to a 4 man rotation. This wouldn't be an option

 

*I would think Oakland needs more help with its everyday lineup than its pitching.

Anderson might be as valuable for them as BMac

If you were Chavez, would you rather sit back and collect 10 mil a year on a constantly rebuilding club(lets face it, Oakland is gonna have a rough couple of years ahead of them regardless if Chavez is traded or not.) or press for a trade to a competing team?

 

To me, it doesnt seem like he wants to jump off a sinking ship as much as he wants to compete for something. It just happens that the sinking ship is facilitating the need to compete. Loyalty means nothing in the game anymore, im not going to start holding it against someone now.

 

Once again, I'm not blaming Chavez for doing this. I was just defending what I said earlier because a few other people jumped on what I said. I want Chavez on this team a hell of a lot and I'm glad he wants to come here. I'm not holding anything against anyone.

A few things:

*The sox won't go to a 4 man rotation. This wouldn't be an option

 

*I would think Oakland needs more help with its everyday lineup than its pitching.

Anderson might be as valuable for them as BMac

 

Haha, maybe they're sending us Zito, too.

Once again, I'm not blaming Chavez for doing this.  I was just defending what I said earlier because a few other people jumped on what I said.  I want Chavez on this team a hell of a lot and I'm glad he wants to come here.  I'm not holding anything against anyone.

 

How do we have this 'he wants to come here'...this whole thing could be and probably is BS...

zito sucks dude... i dont want him

Once again, I'm not blaming Chavez for doing this.  I was just defending what I said earlier because a few other people jumped on what I said.  I want Chavez on this team a hell of a lot and I'm glad he wants to come here.  I'm not holding anything against anyone.

 

Im not trying to start a flame war with you. I was just commenting because the first thing you posted was "I dont think I like his attitude".

 

I think his attitude is pretty normal in the MLB world.

Well...SI has picked up on this....

 

Truth and Rumors

i hate these rumors cuz then i get all excited and a couple days later you find out it was a bunch of BS

 

damn...