not ozzie's fault.

duke's fault.

 

Yes it is Hernandez's fault. However, Crisp should have never had anything good to hit that AB. That directive should have come from Ozzie and Cooper.

I would honestly feel more comfortable with BMac being the 5th starter for the rest of the year, at least he throws strikes and listens to his catcher and pitching coach.

Give the guy a break, his computer is frozen up.  Sox pitching refuses to make Crisp move his feet, home run off the foul pole on a belt high inside half fastball.

 

DJ was just commenting you need to go down and in on Crisp or just slightly high out of the strike zone.  El Duque cannot make those kind of mistakes, a horrible pitch on his part.

 

didn't mean to sound like an ass.

just this isn't the best place if your looking to follow a game, this is more for comments/discussions

Hernandez is done...

I would honestly feel more comfortable with BMac being the 5th starter for the rest of the year, at least he throws strikes and listens to his catcher and pitching coach.

 

Hernandez at Colorado next week will not be pretty.

Yes it is Hernandez's fault.  However, Crisp should have never had anything good to hit that AB.  That directive should have come from Ozzie and Cooper.

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The fastball inside was called for, that is what he threw. He missed his spot out over the plate. I will assume that one finger down and pointed inward means throw the fastball inside.

 

That HR is no one's fault but El Duque, he missed his spot and furthermore, he was the one who hit a guy and walked a guy that inning. Blame goes where blame belongs.

I don't know if it's just the TV mics or not, but the crowd seems dead tonight... I guess Duque's pitching tonight will do that

Blowing four to nothing leads makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Anyone else?

didn't mean to sound like an ass.

just this isn't the best place if your looking to follow a game, this is more for comments/discussions

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I'm not sure that's the case. I often follow the game here if I'm working online and can't have the TV or radio on. There's nothing wrong with providing a little play by play. Plus, maybe it's just me and some of my friends on this board, but we frequently have trouble getting into and staying with the chat. Plus to be honest it's a little more civilized in the game thread.

 

You did not sound like an ass, just wanted to point out various people are present in the game thread for various reasons.

Well, at least it seems like Dye is out of that horrendous funk he was in.

The fastball inside was called for, that is what he threw.  He missed his spot out over the plate.  I will assume that one finger down and pointed inward means throw the fastball inside.

 

That HR is no one's fault but El Duque, he missed his spot and furthermore, he was the one who hit a guy and walked a guy that inning.  Blame goes where blame belongs.

 

How many times are we going to throw Crisp inside fastballs, only to have him turn on them and drive them down the line? Hernandez has had no control on his inside fastballs all game. It's sad when we have to pray for a starting pitcher to get a single batter out.

just this isn't the best place if your looking to follow a game, this is more for comments/discussions

 

Don't forget people telling you how smart they are...

They need to get this run in and take back some momentum. Also I did not like the Coco Crisp and Victor Martinez showboating in the Indians dugout after the HR.

El duque is not good, and has not been good for the last few outings. The big test is how long Ozzie goes with him, he could let this get out of hand quickly. He was spotted a four run lead and choked on it. something is still wrong with the guy. This is a big inning for him. he lets a run in here and its downhill.

this game is going to get ugly in the top of the 4th, I hope Ozzie has Cotts prepared early

They need to get this run in and take back some momentum.

 

Nooope.

i just sent hawk an email....let's see if it comes up. PS: it mentions soxtalk

They need to get this run in and take back some momentum.  Also I did not like the Coco Crisp and Victor Martinez showboating in the Indians dugout after the HR.

Well I would suggest that Duque hit them... but he's already tried that!!

They need to get this run in and take back some momentum.  Also I did not like the Coco Crisp and Victor Martinez showboating in the Indians dugout after the HR.

 

Happens every time they score a run. Hernandez has a different hand shake for every player on the team. I think he should be more worried about hitting than coming up with a new hand shake. I might be alone on that though.

How many times are we going to throw Crisp inside fastballs, only to have him turn on them and drive them down the line?  Hernandez has had no control on his inside fastballs all game.  It's sad when we have to pray for a starting pitcher to get a single batter out.

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Good point - maybe they need to get farther in and make him move his feet. He looks way too comfortable up there. I recall quite a few hits by that guy where he went the other way.

this game is going to get ugly in the top of the 4th, I hope Ozzie has Cotts prepared early

 

I guarantee he doesn't.

ok, ok. so el duque has some problems right now. we all knew this magnificent starting pitching wasn't going to last, and we all knew that el duque was aging and injury prone.

 

assuming el duque is going to be like this from now on, the question becomes what should we do?

 

if he's just going to get knocked around for four runs in six innings most of the time, are we better off with mccarthy every fifth day? perhaps a four-man rotation is the answer, but i don't think so.

 

i say if el duque isn't right or is just showing his age and takes a dump in his next start, it might be time to get mccarthy up for good.

These guys played a long tough 13 inning loss yesterday. Worst thing you do is give them some life.

This is one of the things that drive me insane... you get a good lead then right away our pitcher comes out and lets them right the hell back in it...

El duque is not good, and has not been good for the last few outings. The big test is how long Ozzie goes with him, he could let this get out of hand quickly. He was spotted a four run lead and choked on it. something is still wrong with the guy. This is a big inning for him. he lets a run in here and its downhill.

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His stuff looks ok. I think it's in his head.