Would you trade for Rivera then? That is someone the Yanks will definitely think hard about trading if they decide they are done this year.

 

What would you give up to add Rivera to our BP?

Who becomes the closer for the Yankees then? Gordon is perfect in a set-up role for them. The problem in the Yankees pen hasn't been Mariano Rivera, it's been the pitchers in front of him.

I agree Crede + BMac is not enough. See my posts above. I said Crede + BMac is a no brainer. I think though that Crede + BMac + Anderson would do it PROVIDED the Boss decided he is willing to trade Alex away. That offer would be a tough one for the Boss to resist then, I think. I would defintiely do it eve if it meant giving up BMAc + Crede + Anderson

Look at what the Yankees gave up for Aaron Boone at the deadline 2 years ago. That should tell you what they'd accept for A-Rod. Anderson is going to be a good major leaguer, but I doubt he's going to be a yearly all-star.

Just remember that going out and getting the superstar player doesn't always work.  That's what got NY into this mess.

 

Getting old superstars gets you in trouble. What got NY into trouble is getting the Randy Johnsons, Kevin Browns, Stantons, Quantrills of the world and paying them all way above their next competitor.

 

We are adding Alex to a relatively low payroll, and assuming the attendance will spike up (and continue to stay there with Alex here), this is a business risk JR needs to decide on.

 

We will still have very good minor league depth with our next wave of pitchers ready to step it up next year. We will still have Sweeney if we gave up ANderson.

 

And our payroll is going to have flexibility by losing Everett + Paul this off season and Frank maybe one season or two after (and as long as he stays, probably for a home town discount)

Come on guys there is no way the Yankees will give up Pay-Rod they gave up too much and tried to hard to get him. If it would happen it would be unbelivable in some many ways the most important of all maing us into contenders for a long time and also help take over the city that bleeds cubbie blue. But we have to be realistic. You guys are all against getting a guy lie Chavez and you think we even havea chance at A rod. We need to focus on realistic trades for Randa, Furcal, Guardado, or rincon if we can add either one of those bats and one of those pitchers we would also be set. We need another arm in the bullpen and also a solid ss or 3bb PERIOD!!

Look at what the Yankees gave up for Aaron Boone at the deadline 2 years ago. That should tell you what they'd accept for A-Rod. Anderson is going to be a good major leaguer, but I doubt he's going to be a yearly all-star.

 

Yankees always overbid and overpay at the trade deadline. NOthing new there. That does not mean we have to. Again Crede + Bmac + Anderson/any other prospect they want is a fairly good deal for them.

DBAHO, You're in charge of keepin this one under control. I'm not even venturing back in this thread. It's not worth Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.

Who becomes the closer for the Yankees then? Gordon is perfect in a set-up role for them. The problem in the Yankees pen hasn't been Mariano Rivera, it's been the pitchers in front of him.

 

If the Yankees determine they are out of it this year, why does it matter? Rivera has shown signs of being done earlier this year? Next season may be his final season anyways as an effective closer. They would definitely look to sell him at trade deadline if they determine they are out of it. Who else they can sell that some team might want? Sheffield or Matsui or Randy J are the only others that come to mind.

Come on guys there is no way the Yankees will give up Pay-Rod they gave up too much and tried to hard to get him. If it would happen it would be unbelivable in some many ways the most important of all maing us into contenders for a long time and also help take over the city that bleeds cubbie blue. But we have to be realistic. You guys are all against getting a guy lie Chavez and you think we even havea chance at A rod. We need to focus on realistic trades for Randa, Furcal, Guardado, or rincon if we can add either one of those bats and one of those pitchers we would also be set. We need another arm in the bullpen and also a solid ss or 3bb PERIOD!!

 

The problem with a Chavez is his shaky #s this year and the roids issues. ARod has never had a bad season and there is no reason to believe he will. Great defense + great offense + youth....what is not to like? Well, he did try to cheat in the playoffs last year

ANother point we must understand we are talking about the mother Fing Yankees. The boss has too much pride in himself and the yankees that hes not going to just give up and become a seller for the first time in how many years? The yankees are never out of it... If anything the boss is looking to buy like always and picking up Clemens would be just waht they need to turn the season around. i would love to deal with any of the Yanks all stars but its not happening

The problem with a Chavez is his shaky #s this year and the roids issues. ARod has never had a bad season and there is no reason to believe he will. Great defense + great offense + youth....what is not to like? Well, he did try to cheat in the playoffs last year

 

The differnce is its A rod and we would be dealing with the boss. Chavez is obviously a better 3bb as you can see by the 4 straight gold gloves. no matter what beane says if we throw in b mac the As will deal chavey.

 

TO futher my point the yankees dont go young they are a vetran ean and have been for a while.NAME 1 player the yankees have on there roster that has only played 2 games in the majors. The want proven players not potental.

ANother point we must understand we are talking about the mother Fing Yankees. The boss has too much pride in himself and the yankees that hes not going to just give up and become a seller for the first time in how many years? The yankees are never out of it... If anything the boss is looking to buy like always and picking up Clemens would be just waht they need to turn the season around. i would love to deal with any of the Yanks all stars but its not happening

 

Everything has pointed to Clemens continuing to stay in HOuston or if he was traded, the only place he would go to is the Rangers. The Spankees problems run deeper than one pitcher though. They need at least 3 pitchers (Brown is done, Wright is crap, Randy is no longer Randy and Pavano is average) and they need at least 3 BP relievers (except Flash and Rivera they have no one there). I bet you will find some of their older vets soon going to the DL once they all get overused trying to win every game. No way they buy this trade deadline. Who the hell do they have to give now to get anyone useful at the deadline?????

I seriously think this is an extreme longshot at best, and reallistically damn near impossible. I wouldn't put too much effort into supporting one point of view or the other on this issue.

The differnce is its A rod and we would be dealing with the boss. Chavez is obviously a better 3bb as you can see by the 4 straight gold gloves. no matter what beane says if we throw in b mac the As will deal chavey.

 

TO futher my point the yankees dont go young they are a vetran ean and have been for a while.NAME 1 player the yankees have on there roster that has only played 2 games in the majors. The want proven players not potental.

 

Yes but they need to upgrade half their roster. They just cannot do that by buying anymore. They need some youth.

I seriously think this is an extreme longshot at best, and reallistically damn near impossible.  I wouldn't put too much effort into supporting one point of view or the other on this issue.

 

I hope Kenny spends a lot of time thinking about this though.

DBAHO, You're in charge of keepin this one under control. I'm not even venturing back in this thread. It's not worth Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.

Too bad.... I got work in 30 mins.

I hope Kenny spends a lot of time thinking about this though. 

 

Kenny's never been one to think about dismissing an idea without at least checking it out, if it's one that he thinks will be of help.

Yes but they need to upgrade half their roster. They just cannot do that by buying anymore. They need some youth.

 

IT s the Yankees thats what they do they buy and they can because they have the money to do so. THe yankees want to win and they are not going to trade the one guy that is tearing it up and giving them a chance to win.

If the Yankees determine they are out of it this year, why does it matter? Rivera has shown signs of being done earlier this year? Next season may be his final season anyways as an effective closer. They would definitely look to sell him at trade deadline if they determine they are out of it. Who else they can sell that some team might want? Sheffield or Matsui or Randy J are the only others that come to mind.

At the deadline, the Yankees are never going to feel as if they are out of it. If they are behind, they trade for someone who can help them put them back on top.

 

Matsui is going nowhere. He means to much in terms of merchandise in Asia etc., and they were working on a long - term deal with him in ST and he wants to stay. Sheffield one of the best OF's, once again going nowhere. Randy Johnson, that's a good one.

Kenny's never been one to think about dismissing an idea without at least checking it out, if it's one that he thinks will be of help.

 

That is why I have this tiny hope it might happen

That is why I have this tiny hope it might happen

Let me put it this way, even if A-Rod WAS available for trade, the Los Angeles Dodgers would be the favorites to get him.

At the deadline, the Yankees are never going to feel as if they are out of it. If they are behind, they trade for someone who can help them put them back on top.

 

Matsui is going nowhere. He means to much in terms of merchandise in Asia etc., and they were working on a long - term deal with him in ST and he wants to stay. Sheffield one of the best OF's, once again going nowhere. Randy Johnson, that's a good one.

 

AGain, tell me. If the Yankees want to trade for someone, who do they trade in return to get him????

 

They have 0 prospects AGAIN (unless you count Wang, but he is on their roster right now and I doubt he sustains his goodness in pitching)

AGain, tell me. If the Yankees want to trade for someone, who do they trade in return to get him????

 

They have 0 prospects AGAIN (unless you count Wang, but he is on their roster right now and I doubt he sustains his goodness in pitching)

Chen - ming Wang. Robinson Cano. Eric Duncan. And most importantly, $$$$$.

X-Box trades are fun!!!

 

 

C'mon guys. No way in hell we absorb $25 million a year, when this year we have one of our higher payrolls in a while at $75 million. Its great to have pipe dreams, but realize its the Yankees...Payrod is one of their most productive players, and the Yankees aren't sellers, they just aren't. They will do whatever they can to try and become competitive before July 31st, and trading Rodriguez is counter-productive to everything the Yankees are about.

A-Rod and Jeter are this Yankees version of Ruth/Gehrig or Mantle/Maris. Quite a compariosn, I know, but that is just the way it is. They are the face of Yankees basbeall and neither will be traded.

Haha, that is funny as hell. Next we are going to acquire Pujols right?