July 18, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 04:02 AM) Really? I know that he used to have a damn good glove with the Giants and the Cubs, but I heard that he has mostly sucked it up defensively over the past couple of years, to the point where people are kind of baffled because defense was always a given with Bill. I'm not really in the habit of checking out Red Sox games, but that's the word, big bird. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, really.
July 18, 200520 yr QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 10:14 PM) does anybody pay for that ESPN INside thing? THey have a trade rumor section that I was curious to what is says. They have Ken Griffey on the front of it on the MLB section of ESPN.com. Someone let me know what those ESPN people think? There is no mention of Ken Griffey Jr going anywhere
July 18, 200520 yr QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 01:59 PM) There is no mention of Ken Griffey Jr going anywhere Junior said he would veto any trade. He is in his hometown, making a bunch of cash, he isnt going anywhere.
July 18, 200520 yr "Bill Mueller could be traded to the White Sox" What in the world could they be talking about in this thread? Of course, Ken Griffey Jr.!
July 18, 200520 yr QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 04:27 AM) Yes, really. Bill Mueller ranks 18th in Zone Rating out of 21 third basemen in the MLB with a minimum of 60 games played. Oh yeah, and he ranks dead last in Range Factor. You wouldn't be bulls***ting us, would you?
July 18, 200520 yr QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 02:16 PM) Mueller is an above average third baseman with good range and a good arm. He's not a gold glover but is annually in the top five in every defensive statistic that matters. So you would be discluding fielding percentage, range factor, and zone rating? What are this defesive statistics that matter then? Hmm.
July 18, 200520 yr QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) So you would be discluding fielding percentage, range factor, and zone rating? What are this defesive statistics that matter then? Hmm. And as you stated in a previous thread, range factor ain't even all that important. POs plus Assists over Innings is more a fuction of total chances. But the Zone Rating (the actual measure of range) is a clear indication that Bill is nowhere near what he once was. I know that his knees are f***ed, though. So, he doesn't make a lot of errors (only 4), but he ain't getting to a s***load of balls.
July 18, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 07:16 PM) Mueller is an above average third baseman with good range and a good arm. He's not a gold glover but is annually in the top five in every defensive statistic that matters. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> keyword in bold.
July 18, 200520 yr QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) keyword in bold. You were asked to give an opinion on his glove in 2005, not 1999. Right now, he is without question a below average fielder when you add everything up. Maybe he is solid when it is hit right to him, but his zone rating is pathetic.
July 18, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 11:28 PM) You were asked to give an opinion on his glove in 2005, not 1999. Right now, he is without question a below average fielder when you add everything up. Maybe he is solid when it is hit right to him, but his zone rating is pathetic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see little to no drop off in his defense this season watching him on a daily basis. I was shocked to find out his zr and rf were so horrid. In all honesty, its hard to fathom.
July 19, 200520 yr QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 02:36 PM) So you would be discluding fielding percentage, range factor, and zone rating? What are this defesive statistics that matter then? Hmm. i believe the word you were looking for is excluding. not discluding Edited July 19, 200520 yr by daa84
July 19, 200520 yr http://www.startribune.com/stories/509/5513393.html The Red Sox have called the Twins looking for pitching. Boston is believed to be interested in lefthander J.C. Romero, who could help stabilize a bullpen that had a 5.51 ERA entering Monday -- the second-highest in the American League. The Twins, of course, are looking for hitting, and the Red Sox might be willing to deal veteran third baseman Bill Mueller, who is batting .277 with four homers, 36 RBI and a .379 on-base percentage. Mueller was the 2003 AL batting champion when he hit .326 with 19 homers and 85 RBI. Those numbers fell to .283, 12 and 57 last year. He is making $2.5 million and will be a free agent after the season.
July 19, 200520 yr QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 07:40 AM) Marte or Romero were my predictions months ago. Damn, am I good. Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back there, big guy...
July 23, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back there, big guy... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> too late.
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