June 17, 200520 yr First, Konerko calls out Uribe for tricking Derek Lee on that foul ball in the Cubs series and now he says this... http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...tesox-headlines Konerko defended former Sox teammate Royce Clayton, whose two miscues for Arizona fueled a 10-run sixth inning Wednesday. "He's the best shortstop I ever played with, period," Konerko said. "No one is even close to him. I think the wetness of the ball had something to do with [the throwing error]."
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 05:44 AM) First, Konerko calls out Uribe for tricking Derek Lee on that foul ball in the Cubs series and now he says this... http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...tesox-headlines maybe he meant as far as D goes?
June 17, 200520 yr Jeez...someone been giving Konerko crazy pills? "Best shortstop I've ever played with"??
June 17, 200520 yr Author Jeez...someone been giving Konerko crazy pills? "Best shortstop I've ever played with"?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Awww, come on. Royce was a stud both offensively and defensively.
June 17, 200520 yr Pauly, if I could just show you a couple things right quick... Year Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 2001 CWS 135 433 62 114 21 4 9 60 33 72 10 7.263 .315 .393 .708 2002 CWS 112 342 51 86 14 2 7 35 20 67 5 1.251 .295 .366 .661 What part of The Choice's game was "best ever" may I ask while he was here? His fantastic OBP? Those 15 SBs he got in 247 games? Maybe those 53 Walks he took! I don't doubt that Choice had a pretty solid defensive game, but no way in hell does he posess an arm like Uribe, and Uribe has a HELLUVA lot more offensive ability than K-layton.
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 06:02 AM) Pauly, if I could just show you a couple things right quick... Year Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 2001 CWS 135 433 62 114 21 4 9 60 33 72 10 7.263 .315 .393 .708 2002 CWS 112 342 51 86 14 2 7 35 20 67 5 1.251 .295 .366 .661 What part of The Choice's game was "best ever" may I ask while he was here? His fantastic OBP? Those 15 SBs he got in 247 games? Maybe those 53 Walks he took! I don't doubt that Choice had a pretty solid defensive game, but no way in hell does he posess an arm like Uribe, and Uribe has a HELLUVA lot more offensive ability than K-layton. Amigo, what do Clayton's offensive stats have to do with his playing shortstop? Clayton has been and remains a pretty good defensive shortstop, his strength being steadiness. He has a good arm, not great and good range, not great but rarely pulls a boner like the other night. His D is what keeps him in the big leagues, so his mistakes were remarkable and Kornerko remarked on them.
June 17, 200520 yr Author Amigo, what do Clayton's offensive stats have to do with his playing shortstop? Clayton has been and remains a pretty good defensive shortstop, his strength being steadiness. He has a good arm, not great and good range, not great but rarely pulls a boner like the other night. His D is what keeps him in the big leagues, so his mistakes were remarkable and Kornerko remarked on them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Correction: 2 boners.
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 07:14 AM) Correction: 2 boners. I debated that too, but only one went for an E so I was conservative. What I think happened on the freeze play is he was the most surprised guy in the park when the ball got through Glaus and never expected to handle the play. Complete brain overload. I was not a Clayton fan when he was here and am perfectly happy to see him out in the desert, but the truth is the truth and he is usually a good glove man.
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 07:14 AM) Correction: 2 boners. Are you counting the boner Kong has for Royce?
June 17, 200520 yr Author Are you counting the boner Kong has for Royce? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, the other boner in the inning was when Royce threw the ball away when he was trying to throw to 2nd base.
June 17, 200520 yr Author Wasn't Clayton released by the White Sox? Konerko needs to shut his mouth. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/...clayton_sox_ap/
June 17, 200520 yr Just on Konerko, does anyone not feel he's going to be making Richie Sexson like money next season? FWIW here are Sexson's stats this season thus far; .243/14HR/49RBI. .243/.349/.495 74 K's, 34 BB's.
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(TLAK @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 08:12 AM) Amigo, what do Clayton's offensive stats have to do with his playing shortstop? Clayton has been and remains a pretty good defensive shortstop, his strength being steadiness. He has a good arm, not great and good range, not great but rarely pulls a boner like the other night. His D is what keeps him in the big leagues, so his mistakes were remarkable and Kornerko remarked on them. Defense alone does not a player make. If that was the case, no one would ever say Crediocre is bad. Whem someone says that a mediocre hitting, but solid defensive Shortstop is the "best they've ever played with" , then yes I count the EVERYTHING that player does. And if you'll read my post again, I gave props to Choice being a good defensive SS.
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 06:42 AM) Just on Konerko, does anyone not feel he's going to be making Richie Sexson like money next season? FWIW here are Sexson's stats this season thus far; .243/14HR/49RBI. .243/.349/.495 74 K's, 34 BB's. If he gets his average into the .270-.280 range, then I think he has a decent shot a making Richie Sexson like money.
June 17, 200520 yr Yeah Pauly should have just said that this team wasn't as good as another team he played on instead...
June 17, 200520 yr Paul praising Royce for no apparent reason... hmmm... him and Frank must have had another spat. :rolly
June 17, 200520 yr Only on this board can a comment like that be construed as Konerko not liking Uribe. This is a total non story, it's amazing how people here read into the simplest remarks by a player.
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 08:20 AM) Only on this board can a comment like that be construed as Konerko not liking Uribe. This is a total non story, it's amazing how people here read into the simplest remarks by a player. Exactly. And because of who it is, everyone assumes the worst. Read the papers everyday and you will see this kind of stuff. Players praise other players everyday.
June 17, 200520 yr No where in the article did Konerko ever say he didn't like Uribe, but someone implied that he did. :headshake Edited June 17, 200520 yr by sayitaintso
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 08:20 AM) Only on this board can a comment like that be construed as Konerko not liking Uribe. This is a total non story, it's amazing how people here read into the simplest remarks by a player. I agree this story has nothing to do with Uribe. But it does go a long way in showing the true retardedness of Paul Konerko. I really hope the Sox don't do something stupid and give this guy $10-12 million over 5 years.
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 08:23 AM) Exactly. And because of who it is, everyone assumes the worst. Read the papers everyday and you will see this kind of stuff. Players praise other players everyday. Well.. after what happened with Royce and Frank I have to say it's a bit odd that Paul would speak of Royce at all. There was a time when Royce's head on a platter would have paid a pretty penny...
June 17, 200520 yr QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 08:26 AM) Well.. after what happened with Royce and Frank I have to say it's a bit odd that Paul would speak of Royce at all. There was a time when Royce's head on a platter would have paid a pretty penny... Just a guess but I am sure a reporter asked him about the play in one form or another, and after the screw ups they had that game themselves, maybe he was feeling sorry for him? I don't know, but beginning with the title of the thread, this is all one big assumption, if you know what I mean.
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