atrain081 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 TK just said on Sportscenter that the O's and Sawks are losing interest in dealing for Burnett. Kurkjian thinks that we could step in and get him before the deadline. It would be nice to add Burnett. Call me crazy, but I woulda rather had Burnett starting in the Bosox series instead of Duque and Count back to back. But hey, maybe it can still happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Felix Diaz, Willie Harris, and Joe Borchard. Take it or get nothing Marlins. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Add in Lowell and will give you both Timo and Crede! Its a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 f*** mike lowell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain081 Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 I think the closer it gets to the deadline, the more likely it'll be that we won't have to take lowell. Send them Viz straight up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:59 AM) Felix Diaz, Willie Harris, and Joe Borchard. Take it or get nothing Marlins. B) DO IT! DO IT! GET TO DA CHOPPA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Am I the only one who prays that we don't get Burnett? We'd give up a ton for someone who I don't think would make a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 04:56 PM) Am I the only one who prays that we don't get Burnett? We'd give up a ton for someone who I don't think would make a huge difference. It depends if he goes Carl Pavano on us which is a legiminate possibility and then of course there's the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain081 Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:46 AM) DO IT! DO IT! GET TO DA CHOPPA! Burnett is a definite upgrade over El Duque, and when he is on, he is better than Count. His ERA is under four. I think it's obvious that KW needs to make some sort of move before the deadline. We need another arm in the bullpen, and/or another bat or starting pitcher. If we had to give up Marte, we could move Jose to the pen. If we lose Contreras, we should try to get a guy in the pen. I don't necesarilly think that A.J. is the answer, but I do think that we are one or two moves away from being legitimate contenders in the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 ProSportsDaily.com today is quoting the Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel, which says that if Boston obtains Burnett, they might flip him for Billy Wagner. Which would suck a couple of ways, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 05:11 AM) ProSportsDaily.com today is quoting the Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel, which says that if Boston obtains Burnett, they might flip him for Billy Wagner. Which would suck a couple of ways, I'd say. I read somewhere where KW was told the same thing. If he could get them Burnett, they would give him Wagner. I'd much prefer Wagner to Burnett. Its truly questionable whether Burnett is an upgrade over the Count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 06:45 AM) I read somewhere where KW was told the same thing. If he could get them Burnett, they would give him Wagner. I'd much prefer Wagner to Burnett. Its truly questionable whether Burnett is an upgrade over the Count. i think i would prefer wagner to burnett too. the way i look at it, in the playoffs your #4 starter will help you win only one game the whole series. adding wagner to the back end of teh bullpen will push everyone back in the bullpen which will help in winning each and every game. i could be wrong because burnett could be more than a #4 in our staff, but we'll see. i am certain something will be done. who it will be remains uncertain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 If we trade Contreras for Burnett, we CAN'T flip him for Wagner. We'd be back in the 5th starter black hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 12:56 AM) Am I the only one who prays that we don't get Burnett? We'd give up a ton for someone who I don't think would make a huge difference. I agree with you about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 03:18 PM) If we trade Contreras for Burnett, we CAN'T flip him for Wagner. We'd be back in the 5th starter black hole. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> EXACTLY!!!!! Then what do you do? Your creating a bigger hole by filling another. It just doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 09:18 AM) If we trade Contreras for Burnett, we CAN'T flip him for Wagner. We'd be back in the 5th starter black hole. Yep. That's why Willie, Felix, and Joe(LTP) for Burnett. Take it or leave it Florida. DO IT DO IT DO IT!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!!! Edited July 22, 2005 by nitetrain8601 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 04:44 PM) Yep. That's what Willie, Felix, and Joe(LTP) for Burnett. Take it or leave it Florida. DO IT DO IT DO IT!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!!! I'm going to be Florida. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:46 AM) I'm going to be Florida. No. Takes Burnett hostage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 The question is how much do you want to win a World Series? If it takes Burnett to get Wagner before the deadline then use BMac & not Contreras to get Burnett. Maybe BMac is the next great thing, but he's not going to be that THIS YEAR! With Wagner, everybody drops down which makes the pen that much stronger. On paper at least it looks like a 5 inning game in the post season. Even in 2000 we held leads in the post season vs Seattle before it fell apart in each game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 12:07 PM) The question is how much do you want to win a World Series? If it takes Burnett to get Wagner before the deadline then use BMac & not Contreras to get Burnett. Maybe BMac is the next great thing, but he's not going to be that THIS YEAR! With Wagner, everybody drops down which makes the pen that much stronger. On paper at least it looks like a 5 inning game in the post season. Right on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palesox38 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:56 AM) Am I the only one who prays that we don't get Burnett? We'd give up a ton for someone who I don't think would make a huge difference. I'd rather have him than The Cuban Pitching Crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 12:07 PM) On paper at least it looks like a 5 inning game in the post season. This may come back to hurt us. Ozzie is not the kind of manager to head a bullpen attack. Most of us feel managing the bullpen is his biggest weakness. The last thing I want to do is force him to do this for almost half a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:54 PM) I'd rather have him than The Cuban Pitching Crisis. LOL I would too, but if we could flip him for a Billy Wagner and still keep all 5 of our starters(Burnett is no more effective than Contreras this year) then I rather allow the Cuban Pitching Crisis to keep keepin' on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 03:06 PM) This may come back to hurt us. Ozzie is not the kind of manager to head a bullpen attack. Most of us feel managing the bullpen is his biggest weakness. The last thing I want to do is force him to do this for almost half a game. The more quality arms he has in the pen, the less he can make a mistake. I don't think there could be many mistakes made with Marte/Politte/Hermanson/Wagner at the end of the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) The more quality arms he has in the pen, the less he can make a mistake. I don't think there could be many mistakes made with Marte/Politte/Hermanson/Wagner at the end of the pen. Yeah he can. Using those guys for 1/3rd an inning and putting in Viz to close it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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