July 22, 200520 yr Clearly, he is career .2sucky average but enough pop to warrant an ML contract luckily for him he can play defense at least on most nights I'm just about done with this guy
July 22, 200520 yr QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:59 PM) I'm just about done with this guy That's nice.
July 22, 200520 yr Valentin hits about .215. Joe at least hits mid 240s. That was his first error in FIFTY games. FIFTY. That's like our current lead in the division times five. Hang on. The ship aint sinking yet.
July 22, 200520 yr No, Valentin hits more HRs, walks and strikesout more, and has a worse arm but more range.
July 22, 200520 yr Author compare the career avgs. compare the homers/season Joe Crede = Jose Valentin or at least approximates him
July 23, 200520 yr Author I've supported this guy staunchly for 4 years and my support is severely wavering with every day he continues to post a .240something average
July 23, 200520 yr Valentin could walk onto the set of any porno and find work in an instant. Crede - not so much.
July 23, 200520 yr I've supported this guy staunchly for 4 years and my support is severely wavering with every day he continues to post a .240something average Hibbard, your third post on the topic was the charm. Your first post was snippy; I'd say this one was reasonable. As a Crede supporter, I love his glove (s*** he made a mistake flicking at that pop up that led to the Manny bomb). It was his first error in an obscene amount of games. I don't think we'd be happy if Randa was our everyday third baseman, either.
July 23, 200520 yr well if it wasn't for crede tonight it would have been a close ball game. How? well after aj hit the homer with two outs crede went right to work and got a base hit. Jose would have just struck out or found some other way to get out. This allowed for uribe to come up and deliver as he has started to do lately. Joe crede doesn't give up with two outs so he is not like valentin.
July 23, 200520 yr Joe Crede has hit .275 or over in 3 of the 4 months this season so far. Some food for thought. He also has an OPS over .820 in each of those months.
July 23, 200520 yr I don't know how or why, but behind Frank, Crede's become my 2nd favorite player on the Sox. I have a real hard time hating the guy.
July 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 07:26 PM) Move this to "The Ledge" sub-forum (see, we need one) That's an awesome idea LOL
July 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) Valentin could walk onto the set of any porno and find work in an instant. Crede - not so much. Are we talkin' pre-'burns Crede or post-'burns?
July 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Carlo Paz @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 04:12 AM) Crede's hitting over .300 with men on base! REALLY? Seriously? Show me the stats (I believe you, but I want to see the splits anyway and I'm too lazy to look them up.)
July 23, 200520 yr By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 1B Only 48 2 15 2 0 1 3 1 1 8 1 1 .313 .340 .417 .757 On Second 20 6 9 3 0 2 8 4 0 2 0 0 .450 .542 .900 1.442 On Third 4 6 1 1 0 0 3 0 0 2 0 0 .250 .167 .500 .667 First and Second 17 4 4 0 0 2 8 2 0 3 0 0 .235 .316 .588 .904 First and Third 15 4 4 0 0 1 8 0 0 2 0 0 .267 .250 .467 .717 Second and Third 7 5 2 0 0 1 6 3 0 1 0 0 .286 .455 .714 1.169 Bases Loaded 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 None On/Out 64 4 17 4 0 4 4 2 2 8 0 0 .266 .309 .516 .825 None On, 1/2 out 104 2 18 5 0 2 2 4 4 16 0 0 .173 .232 .279 .511 Close and Late 51 7 15 2 0 2 7 5 1 10 0 0 .294 .368 .451 .819 None On 168 6 35 9 0 6 6 6 6 24 0 0 .208 .261 .369 .630 Runners On 114 28 35 6 0 7 36 10 1 19 1 1 .307 .357 .544 .901 Scoring Position 66 26 20 4 0 6 33 9 0 11 0 0 .303 .367 .636 1.003 Scoring Posn, 2 out 35 11 8 3 0 1 9 6 0 5 0 0 .229 .341 .400 .741 Men On, 2 out 52 12 14 4 0 1 9 6 1 10 1 1 .269 .356 .404 .760 Man on 3rd, Lead Off Inning 61 0 17 4 0 4 4 2 2 8 0 0 .279 .323 .541 .864
July 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 11:15 PM) REALLY? Seriously? Show me the stats (I believe you, but I want to see the splits anyway and I'm too lazy to look them up.) I've got them for you.... "Any stat revolving around men on base; Crede>Konerko"
July 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) I don't know how or why, but behind Frank, Crede's become my 2nd favorite player on the Sox. I have a real hard time hating the guy. I feel the exact same way, I don't want this icky feeling, I'm supposed to hate Joe Crede but for some reason I have become a fan of the guy. I just really can't find any reason to hate him.
July 23, 200520 yr QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) Valentin could walk onto the set of any porno and find work in an instant. Crede - not so much. Psssh, with those sideburns Joe will get a job instantaneously! Edited July 23, 200520 yr by SoxFan1
July 23, 200520 yr A month or 2 ago, people were calling for upgrades at 3B and SS as the main problem areas. Now it seems Uribe has become the main target for criticism in the Sox lineup, which at least shows Joe has picked it up offensively.
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