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QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:30 PM)
Is it smart to purchase a vehicle for the once a year vacation or the 99% regular miles?

 

 

I don't know if it's smart but it's kinda what we did. We have the Jeep for hauling stuff and for the winter. We have my Galant for mostly everyday driving. And we have the Vette for fun.

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QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:30 PM)
Couple of questions.

 

Is it in our nation's best interest to be dependent on foreign oil and food?

Is it smart to purchase a vehicle for the once a year vacation or the 99% regular miles?

I may be wrong, but I think you're talking about me.

 

I bought my vehicle because I got a damned good price. I don't only use it for "the once a year family vacation" either. We go on a lot of short extended weekend type trips.

 

I can't begin to count the numerous things I've hauled in my Blazer that would have been impossible in a 4 door sedan.

 

No, it's not in our country's best interest to be dependent on foreign oil. That's why I support drilling in ANWAR.

 

A question...do you think our dependence on items made of plastic keeps the demand for oil high?

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QUOTE(mreye @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 07:59 AM)
I may be wrong, but I think you're talking about me.

 

I bought my vehicle because I got a damned good price. I don't only use it for "the once a year family vacation" either. We go on a lot of short extended weekend type trips.

 

I can't begin to count the numerous things I've hauled in my Blazer that would have been impossible in a 4 door sedan.

 

No, it's not in our country's best interest to be dependent on foreign oil. That's why I support drilling in ANWAR.

 

A question...do you think our dependence on items made of plastic keeps the demand for oil high?

 

Wasn't anyone in particular. Actually the dependency on foreign food has me more troubled. One report I read showed some serious hunger problems if we suddenly were cut off from foreign raised and produced food. We have the capacity to feed ourselves but have decided in favor of year round availability and cheaper prices.

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QUOTE(mreye @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 07:59 AM)
I may be wrong, but I think you're talking about me.

 

I bought my vehicle because I got a damned good price. I don't only use it for "the once a year family vacation" either. We go on a lot of short extended weekend type trips.

 

I can't begin to count the numerous things I've hauled in my Blazer that would have been impossible in a 4 door sedan.

 

No, it's not in our country's best interest to be dependent on foreign oil. That's why I support drilling in ANWAR.

 

A question...do you think our dependence on items made of plastic keeps the demand for oil high?

 

The cost of producing oil at ANWR has been put at a conservative estimate of 70 dollars a barrel. The amount it produces, when and if it produces a serious commercial amount of oil, the amount we demand will grow to the point that it would only slow the growth of our dependency - NOT reduce it.

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QUOTE(mreye @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 06:59 AM)
I bought my vehicle because I got a damned good price. I don't only use it for "the once a year family vacation" either. We go on a lot of short extended weekend type trips.

 

I can't begin to count the numerous things I've hauled in my Blazer that would have been impossible in a 4 door sedan.

 

Same here. I bought my Suburban because I need it to tow my pop-up trailer. I'd go camping every weekend if I possibly could. Plus it's handy when the kids want to bring a friend or two on those camping trips.

 

It has also made numerous trips to the local menards to haul sheets of plywood, drywall, doors, concrete blocks...

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QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 08:58 AM)
It has also made numerous trips to the local menards to haul sheets of plywood, drywall, doors, concrete blocks...

...mulch, top soil, plants, chairs, both my deers, cabinets, windows, wood burning stove, bathtub, love seat, fridge, stove, washer, dryer, TVs, entertainment center...

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QUOTE(mreye @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 10:24 AM)
...mulch, top soil, plants, chairs, both my deers, cabinets, windows, wood burning stove, bathtub, love seat, fridge, stove, washer, dryer, TVs, entertainment center...

 

 

Dayyymmm... that's a BIG truck! ;)

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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 10:24 AM)
So now that I know who has the big trucks... Who is coming to help me move here soon?

 

No problem, let me know when you're moving and who to send the fuel bill to. I'm guessing 3400 miles round trip, 10 mpg, $900 should about cover it.

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There is only one solution: ration consumption.

 

It's pretty easy to implement as well. Most of the pumps today are software driven where the POS transactions are processed by central locations. I know because I wrote the initial software. You can put in a step size graduated tax system.

 

First $20 at the pump = x% tax

$20-$30 at the pump = tack on a y% tax

$30-$40 at the pump = tack on a z% tax

 

and so on.

 

The same can be applied to energy bills. The more you consume in any one month the more you will pay in taxes. The tax money is then turned into subsidies for alternative energy sources.

 

It will never happen though. The lobbyists from the automakers, oil companies, & energy companies are probably the most powerful in Washington.

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QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 09:52 AM)
my favorite line of the article...

 

 

Wow a family of 4 and soon to be 5 has no choice but to own a SUV? Funny, I don't remember seeing any SUV's in the 50's, 60's, 70's or 80's.

 

there must not have been 4-5 members of a family back then.

How was the gas consumption of those boats back then?

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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 03:32 PM)
There is only one solution: ration consumption.

 

It's pretty easy to implement as well.  Most of the pumps today are software driven where the POS transactions are processed by central locations.  I know because I wrote the initial software.  You can put in a step size graduated tax system. 

 

First $20 at the pump = x% tax

$20-$30 at the pump = tack on a y% tax

$30-$40 at the pump = tack on a z% tax

 

and so on.

 

The same can be applied to energy bills.  The more you consume in any one month the more you will pay in taxes.  The tax money is then turned into subsidies for alternative energy sources.

 

It will never happen though.  The lobbyists from the automakers, oil companies, & energy companies are probably the most powerful in Washington.

 

Wow. Just wow. I"ll leave this alone.

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 10:38 AM)
How was the gas consumption of those boats back then?

 

Brian and I were laughing when we looked at the build/sell sheets on our 1970 Fairlane 500 SCJ (1 of 8 with that engine/tranny set up, I might add ;) ).

 

With racing gas, it gets 8 miles to the gallon. We joke that after we finish the restoration and he wants to take it to work, he will have to fill up several times just to get to work. :lol:

 

If you have a straight 6 car, the mileage wasn't that much different from an average car today. And those bastards live forever.

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