October 10, 200520 yr Unlike a 5 game series, in a 7 game series you will need to use your entire 25-man roster. Marte will clearly be getting the ball in the ALCS at some point. As much as I want to face the Yankees as we go on our anti-espn world tour, I would rather have shaky Marte against Finley, Anderson and Erstad than Matsui, Giambi, and Posada
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 12:44 PM) That was taken from a Suntimes article today. Can you just imagine what Anderson, Erstad, Finley and Kennedy would do to Marte? HOLY s***. If anyone thinks that Ozzie is going to put marte in that situation again instead of Neal you must be crazy. He is now relegated to last guy in the pen. And he is only there in case, thats it.
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(rudylaw @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 07:42 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp...amId=3&sort=avg Marte vs the Angels in his Career. As long as he does not pitch to Anderson the numbers are pretty good. Don't get me wrong I DO NOT Marte in the roster but the numbers don't lie. Damaso used to be one of the best relievers in baseball as well, now...he sucks.
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 07:42 PM) If anyone thinks that Ozzie is going to put marte in that situation again instead of Neal you must be crazy. He is now relegated to last guy in the pen. And he is only there in case, thats it. How do you know that?? Nobody knows that, that should have happened a long time ago but oz kept running him out there in crucial situations only to f*** up time after time.
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 09:45 PM) Damaso used to be one of the best relievers in baseball as well, now...he sucks. Pretty much sums it up.
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(rudylaw @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 07:34 PM) I feel bad for BMAC but I am going to trust Ozzie with this. PS How about my pumpkin that I carved today. Nice job on the pumpkin! What carving tool did you use?
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) If you are going to have Marte on the roster, why not bring Kevin Walker along just in case Marte does not suck enough.
October 10, 200520 yr Okay, I'll fire a shot across the bow... I'm wondering if Ozzie likes Marte, despite all logic, because he's a "home boy" (i.e., Hispanic). That should get some conversation going!
October 10, 200520 yr I tried to warn you guys this would happen yesterday. For those of you that missed it, below is my post from another thread on why they would keep Marte. That said, expect Marte to make a major contribution in the ALCS and many of you to be eating crow! I'm not saying Marte will or should be kept on the roster, but here are a few points from the opposing viewpoint... -- Two lefties give a manager more flexibility, especially when they need to get out just one hitter. -- what happens if Neal Cotts gets hurt early in the series? Would you want to go through most of a 7-game series with NO lefties in the pen? -- Ozzie is loyal if anything -- Sometimes a manager showing faith in a player pulls them out of a funk. Remember how Francona stuck by Mark Bellhorn last year when Red Sox fans were chanting for Pokey Reese? Bellhorn was practically 0-for the playoffs and finally got hot when most needed. -- I do believe that many Sox fans here and elsewhere were adamant about NOT putting El Duque on the playoff roster since he had been pitching poorly. Do those of you in that group still think that would have been the right move? This was just a couple of weeks ago boys and girls. If I were Ozzie and forced to make the decision alone, the decision I made would have to do more with what transpired during the season. Deep down does Ozzie believe he can get what he needs out of Marte? Does he feel Marte has it in him to pull it out? If based on that, I think Marte could help, I'd keep him on the roster. That's just me (if I were Ozzie)
October 10, 200520 yr If Marte actually pitches in the next series I will just turn my TV off and turn it back on when I think he's done pitching. I can't handle Marte's drama.
October 10, 200520 yr If the 'stros Bravos game today says anything to Ozzie, it's that you need TWO or THREE long relievers in the playoffs. Put BMAC on the roster Oz.
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) I tried to warn you guys this would happen yesterday. For those of you that missed it, below is my post from another thread on why they would keep Marte. That said, expect Marte to make a major contribution in the ALCS and many of you to be eating crow! mmmmmm..........................crow...................... I got a hankerin' for some crow, I hope Marte makes me eat some. I doubt it, though.
October 10, 200520 yr I'm one of the few that's glad Marte is on the roster. I know he's stuggled of late, but if Ozzie and Coop have this much faith in him, I will also.
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(kevin57 @ Oct 10, 2005 -> 04:16 AM) Okay, I'll fire a shot across the bow... I'm wondering if Ozzie likes Marte, despite all logic, because he's a "home boy" (i.e., Hispanic). That should get some conversation going! Marte being a Latino has nothing to do with how Ozzie's treating him. [maybe, though, the opposite is true, and Marte being Latin has given Ozzie more leeway to call out his ass--ie, Marte pitching scared isn't very macho = less respect Ozzie has for Marte as a man.] Marte has stellar stuff, when he trusts his stuff and lets it fly. Few people can hit him. Marte gets in trouble when he tries to nibble [which he as done a lot the last two yrs]. That's why Ozzie is on his ass and has backed him to this point. Marte could dominate but he's a head case. And why he frustrates the hell out of the sox coaching staff and fans. Equating frustration with liking him because he's a fellow latino is a huge stretch.
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Oct 10, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) I'm one of the few that's glad Marte is on the roster. I know he's stuggled of late, but if Ozzie and Coop have this much faith in him, I will also. He just hasn't been doing anything well
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Oct 10, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) I'm one of the few that's glad Marte is on the roster. I know he's stuggled of late, but if Ozzie and Coop have this much faith in him, I will also. He just hasn't been doing anything well
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(SoxRock192 @ Oct 10, 2005 -> 06:51 AM) Double posts suck Not as much as Marte did on Friday.
October 10, 200520 yr sorry if this has been posted on here already, but as far as the rotation, I'm fine with it. Contreras is one of the best pitchers still playing, and he is going to be facing a tired team, no matter if it's the Angels or NY. I believe MB is a lot better at home than he is on the road and Garcia is better on the road than at home, so those two starts make sense. As far as Garland, I think he will be good either home or road and a simulated game should keep him sharp enough....
October 10, 200520 yr QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Oct 10, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) If Marte actually pitches in the next series I will just turn my TV off and turn it back on when I think he's done pitching. I can't handle Marte's drama. Do you really want to turn the TV on to a bases loaded, nobody out jam?
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