I hope they can backload Konerko's contract.  Like have him earn $6 Million for the first year and he ends up earning $14.5 Million in the last year of the contract.  That would total up to $49 Million and you can put bonuses in there to.

No way, this team can't afford to backload, if they do that there pitchers will be becoming FA's at the same time Konerko and a few other backloaded contracts would get really steep, basically making it impossible to resign our starting pitching.

There is no way in hell Konerko takes a pay cut from 2005 to 2006 when he's a free agent.  Let's come back to the real world, please.

Delgado did and truth be told if you gave me a choice between the two i would say Delgado is the better player.

No way, this team can't afford to backload, if they do that there pitchers will be becoming FA's at the same time Konerko and a few other backloaded contracts would get really steep, basically making it impossible to resign our starting pitching.

 

 

Why do you bother to post common sense...

As long as Paulie gives the Sox the last offer, I think we have a good chance of resigning him.

 

Let's just hope he does that.

Why do you bother to post common sense...

Good question, because 85% of the time people can't understand it.

Good question, because 85% of the time people can't understand it.

 

 

:banghead :banghead :banghead

 

 

:banghead  :banghead  :banghead

This will be a common theme during the offseason.

This will be a common theme during the offseason.

 

 

Same as it ever was...

Why does everybody think that Konerko all he cares about is money. I think if the offers are pretty close he would accept the Sox offer.

Why does everybody think that Konerko all he cares about is money.  I think if the offers are pretty close he would accept the Sox offer.

Why would anyone in their right mind take less money.

 

It would be a stupid business move and he would also greatly annoy the players union.

 

The Sox will either fork over the cash or he will leave.

Why would anyone in their right mind take less money.

 

It would be a stupid business move and he would also greatly annoy the players union.

 

The Sox will either fork over the cash or he will leave.

 

 

 

cough*commonsense*cough.

cough*commonsense*cough. 

I'm trying to get them used to common sense.

 

Repetition, repetition, repetition.

Why does everybody think that Konerko all he cares about is money.  I think if the offers are pretty close he would accept the Sox offer.

 

He may take slightly less money. Not some backloaded, incentive laden deal, with a buyout option. :rolly

 

I think you are confusing the two...But when it comes down to it you will have to pay him to stay. If you match his best offer he will choose Chicago, if not wave bye bye to Paulie.

He may take slightly less money. Not some backloaded, incentive laden deal, with a buyout option.  :rolly

 

I think you are confusing the two...But when it comes down to it you will have to pay him to stay. If you match his best offer he will choose Chicago, if not wave bye bye to Paulie.

 

rd5 is right. Get close, and I mean close, and I think Paulie would come back, but if you lowball him at all, he gawn. And I wouldn't blame him one bit.

 

Jermaine Dye took less money, but he liked the team, liked the manager, and probably saw hitting in Comiskey 81 games a year as a HUGE opportunity. Which was right.

He may take slightly less money. Not some backloaded, incentive laden deal, with a buyout option.  :rolly

 

I think you are confusing the two...But when it comes down to it you will have to pay him to stay. If you match his best offer he will choose Chicago, if not wave bye bye to Paulie.

is it really lowballing because he would get his money. What if he were to earn around the same as this year. And than the contract escalates for the next three years.

I heard an initial offer of 48/4 so we're starting at $12M a yr. That's w/out incentives. I think you can easily blow that up to 52/4 with incentives or 12.5M/yr.

 

I might be in the minority but I think that's the max on what the CWS should pay for Koney. No doubt the 40-40 100/100 is impressive but he's never been a .300 hitter, his OBP is nothing great, & he's a cancer on the basepads which induces the guy following him to hit into more DP's.

 

Outside of showing great poise & skill at 1B this year I don't see much reason to think he's a better offensive player than Carlos Lee. Will Carlos Lee command that kind of $ in a year? What about Derrick Lee? It seems ludicrous to invest 70/5 yrs in 1 player just because OTHER teams are in more dire straits for his services than our own.

 

One of things about this past season that has been overlooked is how well Everett performed when Thomas returned. I think that warrants a further look at that DH Tandem in 2006. Both are coming off lackluster years & should come at a major bargain. I'd say Thomas at $1.5M & Everett at $3M. What this gives Ozzie is the ability to use the DH from both the R & L side of the plate as the season unfolds. If both can stay healthy I think that will prove more productive than letting them go, using a minor leaguer at DH & signing Koney to 70/5.

 

If I were Konerko I would tell my agent this:

Kenny I'm willing to accept 48/4 for the good of the team but I want to be rewarded handsomely when the team excels. I want a $1M bonus if the team wins the division, $1M bonus if the team wins it's ALDS, $1M bonus if the team wins it's ALCS, & a $2M bonus if the team wins the WS again.

That means in any given year I can make between $12-17M. I'd be more than happy with that.

 

Job security is important too. If I have 1200+ AB's over the 4 yrs I want a player option for a 5th yr tacked on with the same base & incentives. If I have 400+ AB's that year I want a 6th yr tacked on with the same base & incentives. And so on for a 7th yr.

I hope our payroll goes up to 90-91 million. But if it doesn't it means one of two things.

1. We don't re-sign Paulie

2. We re-sign Paulie but are forced to trade one of our stud pitchers.

 

Our 2005 payroll was $69 million. After having the 3rd largest attendance in Comiskey Park history for the regular season. And collecting on all this revenue from the playoffs and the world series- there is NO reason why we shouldn't have a $85 million + payroll in '06!

is it really lowballing because he would get his money.  What if he were to earn around the same as this year.  And than the contract escalates for the next three years.

 

It's simple economics as to why backloaded or deferred contracts are lowballing. Inflation, time value of money, etc. You know, common sense

is it really lowballing because he would get his money.  What if he were to earn around the same as this year.  And than the contract escalates for the next three years.

I don't think you understand the concept of backloading. If Konerko were to have a contract similar to what you speak of it could potentially f*** the Sox when it comes time to hand out new contracts to their starting pitchers.

 

'06 - $6M

'07 - $14.5M (Cotts hits Arbitration)

'08 - $15.5M (FAs: Garcia, Buehrle, Iguchi)(Jenks hits Arb.)

'09 - $17M (FAs: Uribe, Garland/AJ/Crede[if the recieve 3yr deals with no option years])

'10 - $17M

 

Other than the fact that Konerko would never accept such a deal, the Sox can't afford to be paying a player such a high salary around this time.