How much are we talking to get Nomar here? Would he be willing to take a role as a back-up to be apart of a winner? I think we can all agree that he would be a nice option over Bill M?

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what about this trade??

 

Hank Blalock,Adrian Gonzalez <->Joe Crede,Freddy Garcia 

 

Adrian Gonzalez has decent skill in 1B

 

Hank Blalock>Joe Crede ..............

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The Blalock trade topic has been beaten to death here.

 

He can't hit lefties, on the road, or in the second half.

 

Also, why break up our starting pitching? Garcia's deal looks better each offseason. (Look at what pitching has been getting this offseason.)

I'd go with Thomas but I'd also feel out the Reds on Griffey. Probably a moot point as Dunn might be traded at the meetings but its worht exploring at least

Yeah basicly first id see what the Reds want for Dunn and if its not 2 much make a trade for him. He would be perfect low avg. but lots of power and takes a lot of walks.

 

Than I like the sign Nomar and bring back Frank idea. Nomar could play 2B, SS, 3B, and DH..... and with all these back issues concerning Crede he might even be the everyday 3B. Than we can have Thome play 1B because he is supposedly in the best shape of his career. With that our lineup would actually be pretty explosive.

 

LF:Podsenick

3B:Nomar

1B:Thome

DH:Thomas

RF:Dye

2B:Iguchi

C:Pieryznski

CF:Anderson

SS:Uribe

See, I don't want Nomar as our everyday thirdbaseman. He's a HUGE downgrade defensively from Crede, and that alone is worth a lot of runs.

 

The reason I like Nomar is because (IMO) he'd be able to play one positions pretty well (1B, with a whole Spring Training there under his belt), DH (duh), and two other positions not extremely well, but he wouldn't kill us out there (3B, and to a lesser extent, SS).

 

He's versatile in not just where he can play in the IF, but also where he can be put in the lineup. You could probably pencil him in anywhere from the #2 spot to the #6 spot.

See, I don't want Nomar as our everyday thirdbaseman.  He's a HUGE downgrade defensively from Crede, and that alone is worth a lot of runs.

 

The reason I like Nomar is because (IMO) he'd be able to play one positions pretty well (1B, with a whole Spring Training there under his belt), DH (duh), and two other positions not extremely well, but he wouldn't kill us out there (3B, and to a lesser extent, SS).

 

He's versatile in not just where he can play in the IF, but also where he can be put in the lineup.  You could probably pencil him in anywhere from the #2 spot to the #6 spot.

I completely agree with you here. I understand why you have Nomar hitting in the 2 hole but if he is the backup plan and that plan comes into play, I'd like to see him hit 3rd and keep gooch in the 2 hole. Like you said though, that's why Nomar would be a solid pickup because you could slot him just about anywhere.

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Sign Big Hurt to an incentive laden deal and than sign a guy like Matt LeCroy to back Thomas up in case he gets hurt.

Sign Big Hurt to an incentive laden deal and than sign a guy like Matt LeCroy to back Thomas up in case he gets hurt.

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Matt LeCroy only hits lefties. He would be a poor option.

If we don't re-sign Paulie (for 14 mil) I will have a big party at my house! The party will be extra big if we re-sign Frank! You are all invited

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Please enroll me in the Frank Thomas Fan Club!

 

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Sign Big Hurt to an incentive laden deal and than sign a guy like Matt LeCroy to back Thomas up in case he gets hurt.

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The White Sox have their sights set a lot higher than Matt Lecroy.

 

Maybe sign Lecroy for Charlotte.

Matt LeCroy only hits lefties.  He would be a poor option.

What about Matt Stairs. He has good pop and is a lefty.

The White Sox have their sights set a lot higher than Matt Lecroy.

 

Maybe sign Lecroy for Charlotte. 

I didn't know .260 with 17 Home Runs in 304 At Bats last year was bad. He is a great role player.

See, I don't want Nomar as our everyday thirdbaseman.  He's a HUGE downgrade defensively from Crede, and that alone is worth a lot of runs.

 

The reason I like Nomar is because (IMO) he'd be able to play one positions pretty well (1B, with a whole Spring Training there under his belt), DH (duh), and two other positions not extremely well, but he wouldn't kill us out there (3B, and to a lesser extent, SS).

 

He's versatile in not just where he can play in the IF, but also where he can be put in the lineup.  You could probably pencil him in anywhere from the #2 spot to the #6 spot.

 

I do not want Nomar as an everyday player (except MAYBE as a DH). He is not a great fielder, but more importantly he has not been the same hitter since he hurt himself in 2001. He has not played more than half a season since 2003 . I do not believe that Nomar should play in the field due to this injury risk.

 

That being said, I also feel fall more comfortable with Thome DHing (age, past injuries), so I will say no thanks on Nomar unless the White Sox can sign him for very very cheap to play be a 1B/ super utility guy.

I didn't know .260 with 17 Home Runs in 304 At Bats last year was bad.  He is a great role player.

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The Twins cut him, what does that tell you Josh?

 

Matt Stairs, the Royals re-signed him. Try to keep up.

I didn't know .260 with 17 Home Runs in 304 At Bats last year was bad.  He is a great role player.

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He would be Carl Everett Part 2. Set your sights higher.

My Ideal Lineup for next season:

1. Pods LF

2. Uribe SS

3. Thome 1B

4. Thomas DH

5. Iguchi 2B

6. Dye RF

7. Crede 3B

8. Pierzynski C

9. Anderson CF

 

I would rather spend money on Frank and strengthen the bench than pay Konerko $14 Million now that we got Thome. Sign a good bench player like LeCroy or trade for Stairs. Both of those can step in if Frank gets hurt again and they both have a lot of pop.

The Twins cut him, what does that tell you Josh?

 

Matt Stairs, the Royals re-signed him.  Try to keep up. 

I am talking about trading for Stairs. Give up a decent prospect (nothing great). The Twins cut him because they didn't want to pay him. He was a favorite of Gardenhire.

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I would rather spend money on Frank and strengthen the bench than pay Konerko $14 Million now that we got Thome.  Sign a good bench player like LeCroy or trade for Stairs.  Both of those can step in if Frank gets hurt again and they both have a lot of pop.

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Josh you do know the White Sox and the Royals don't trade with one another, and haven't since, oh, 1989 or so?

 

Stop with the Matt stuff, they are aiming a lot higher.

Josh you do know the White Sox and the Royals don't trade with one another, and haven't since, oh, 1989 or so?

 

Stop with the Matt stuff, they are aiming a lot higher.

you could do a lot worse than Stairs. He put up good numbers for the Royals and is a good guy in the clubhouse.

My Ideal Lineup for next season:

1. Pods LF

2. Uribe SS

3. Thome 1B

4. Thomas DH

5. Iguchi 2B

6. Dye RF

7. Crede 3B

8. Pierzynski C

9. Anderson CF

 

I would rather spend money on Frank and strengthen the bench than pay Konerko $14 Million now that we got Thome.  Sign a good bench player like LeCroy or trade for Stairs.  Both of those can step in if Frank gets hurt again and they both have a lot of pop.

Uribe is way, way to streaky to hit 2nd.

Uribe is way, way to streaky to hit 2nd.

who hits number 2 because i have a feeling it's not gonna be Iguchi this year.

My Ideal Lineup for next season:

1. Pods LF

2. Uribe SS

3. Thome 1B

4. Thomas DH

5. Iguchi 2B

6. Dye RF

7. Crede 3B

8. Pierzynski C

9. Anderson CF

 

I would rather spend money on Frank and strengthen the bench than pay Konerko $14 Million now that we got Thome.  Sign a good bench player like LeCroy or trade for Stairs.  Both of those can step in if Frank gets hurt again and they both have a lot of pop.

 

I really hope the Sox do not begin next season with Uribe hitting in the 2 hole. Far too many strikeouts and too much of a free swinger. He is a good hitter at the bottom of the lineup. Unless someone new is brought in either from outside (Pierre, etc.) or Owens from within the system, Gooch will be in the 2 hole again next year.

 

As far as Knonerko goes, I love Frank Thomas and he is the reason I am a White Sox fan, but with Thome's age and past health issues, I would feel far more comfortable with Thome DH'ing and PK at 1B than Thome at 1st and Frank and DH. I also think it's a stretch to assume Frank will be healthy all season.

The Twins cut him, what does that tell you Josh?

 

 

That had more to do with the roster situation than anything else. He's a great platoon player/3rd string catcher. However, I don't think we're in the market for that type of player, as Ozzie doesn't really like to use platoon players. I still think we would do well to get a righty power hitter for the bench. Eduardo Perez is a real solid bench player.

who hits number 2 because i have a feeling it's not gonna be Iguchi this year.

It'll be Iguchi unless Owens is somehow the starting cf which I highly doubt or if we trade for a 2 hitter. He's still a much better option then Juan.

Remember this: Ozzie fears Stairs more than any other hitter in baseball.