i am completely surprise in the activity that cle is making in offseason.

 

how much ground has cle made up on the sox?

 

i think it is going to be a tough yr next yr.

So Paul Byrd is an upgrade over Kevin Millwood and Scott Elarton?

So Paul Byrd is an upgrade over Kevin Millwood and Scott Elarton?

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That's the only move Cleveland has made right? They still need a closer, right fielder, and maybe a first baseman.

That's the only move Cleveland has made right?  They still need a closer, right fielder, and maybe a first baseman.

 

Well they are supposedly going to sign Hoffman too and he is still good although prob wont be as good as Wickman was last season.

 

And id assume they are only going to upgrade one of those positions not both.

i am completely surprise in the activity that cle is making in offseason.

 

how much ground has cle made up on the sox?

 

i think it is going to be a tough yr next yr.

 

 

Are you drinking? You sound like you're 8 years old. Cleveland has signed Paul Byrd, uh-oh watch out.

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Well they are supposedly going to sign Hoffman too and he is still good although prob wont be as good as Wickman was last season.

 

And id assume they are only going to upgrade one of those positions not both.

I'm still not gonna count out the Pads out of the Hoffman race. A few weeks ago, everyone thought Giles was done in San Diego, but it wasn't the case.

 

But then Kevin Towers and Sandy Alderson had to offer him 2 years $10M in this current market didn't they. OOPS.

For some reason, I think this thread is meant to be green, but I'm not too sure

I'm still not gonna count out the Pads out of the Hoffman race. A few weeks ago, everyone thought Giles was done in San Diego, but it wasn't the case.

 

But then Kevin Towers and Sandy Alderson had to offer him 2 years $10M in this current market didn't they. OOPS. 

Hoffman will take a hometown discount and 2yr 16 mill would do it (I think he'd take a year less or even do something like a 3yr 18 mill deal).

For some reason, I think this thread is meant to be green, but I'm not too sure

I would hope so. Byrd is a solid pitcher but Millwood was flat out awesome for them. Howry and Wickman were also outstanding for the tribe last year, there is a good shot they will lose all three.

Lets not forget Byrd was the only pitcher able to beat us in the playoffs DAMN Byrd- I wanted to go 11-0!

Hoffman will take a hometown discount and 2yr 16 mill would do it (I think he'd take a year less or even do something like a 3yr 18 mill deal).

 

He isnt even rumored to get that much from other teams how would that be a discount?

He isnt even rumored to get that much from other teams how would that be a discount?

Aren't the Indians offering 3yrs 24 million (ie 8 million a year).

Buy or sell? The 06 Indian pitching staff will be better than 05.

 

As good as Millwood was, I don't see anyone (especially not Paul Byrd) filling his shoes.