LDF Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 i am completely surprise in the activity that cle is making in offseason. how much ground has cle made up on the sox? i think it is going to be a tough yr next yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So Paul Byrd is an upgrade over Kevin Millwood and Scott Elarton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 So Paul Byrd is an upgrade over Kevin Millwood and Scott Elarton? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's the only move Cleveland has made right? They still need a closer, right fielder, and maybe a first baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 09:30 AM) That's the only move Cleveland has made right? They still need a closer, right fielder, and maybe a first baseman. Well they are supposedly going to sign Hoffman too and he is still good although prob wont be as good as Wickman was last season. And id assume they are only going to upgrade one of those positions not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHawkaroo Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(LDF @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 02:42 AM) i am completely surprise in the activity that cle is making in offseason. how much ground has cle made up on the sox? i think it is going to be a tough yr next yr. Are you drinking? You sound like you're 8 years old. Cleveland has signed Paul Byrd, uh-oh watch out. Edited December 5, 2005 by TheHawkaroo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 08:32 PM) Well they are supposedly going to sign Hoffman too and he is still good although prob wont be as good as Wickman was last season. And id assume they are only going to upgrade one of those positions not both. I'm still not gonna count out the Pads out of the Hoffman race. A few weeks ago, everyone thought Giles was done in San Diego, but it wasn't the case. But then Kevin Towers and Sandy Alderson had to offer him 2 years $10M in this current market didn't they. OOPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 For some reason, I think this thread is meant to be green, but I'm not too sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 03:48 AM) I'm still not gonna count out the Pads out of the Hoffman race. A few weeks ago, everyone thought Giles was done in San Diego, but it wasn't the case. But then Kevin Towers and Sandy Alderson had to offer him 2 years $10M in this current market didn't they. OOPS. Hoffman will take a hometown discount and 2yr 16 mill would do it (I think he'd take a year less or even do something like a 3yr 18 mill deal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 09:13 PM) For some reason, I think this thread is meant to be green, but I'm not too sure I would hope so. Byrd is a solid pitcher but Millwood was flat out awesome for them. Howry and Wickman were also outstanding for the tribe last year, there is a good shot they will lose all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Lets not forget Byrd was the only pitcher able to beat us in the playoffs DAMN Byrd- I wanted to go 11-0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 03:25 AM) Hoffman will take a hometown discount and 2yr 16 mill would do it (I think he'd take a year less or even do something like a 3yr 18 mill deal). He isnt even rumored to get that much from other teams how would that be a discount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 08:04 AM) He isnt even rumored to get that much from other teams how would that be a discount? Aren't the Indians offering 3yrs 24 million (ie 8 million a year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Buy or sell? The 06 Indian pitching staff will be better than 05. As good as Millwood was, I don't see anyone (especially not Paul Byrd) filling his shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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