April 26, 200619 yr Some interesting numbers. 7 batters in the top 127, and 4 pitchers in the top 57. I know it is still early, but the team looks pretty solid. VORP Rankings MLB Rank VORP Jim Thome 4 17.0 Paul Konerko 15 11.6 Jermaine Dye 23 10.1 Joe Crede 88 5.5 Tadahito Iguchi 98 5.2 AJ Pierzynski 100 5.2 Pablo Ozuna 127 3.8 Alex Cintron 225 0.9 Ross Gload 254 0.4 Brian Anderson 391 -0.9 Juan Uribe 460 -2.0 Chris Widger 473 -2.4 Scott Podsednik 520 -4.1 Robert Mackowiak 524 -4.4 -- Aaron Rowand 110 4.8 Carl Everett 235 0.8 Willie Harris 443 -1.4 Frank Thomas 540 -5.7 * out of 551 batters ----------------------------------- Pitchers MLB Rank VORP Jose Contreras 1 15.9 Mark Buehrle 7 14.2 Javier Vazquez 31 8.4 Brandon McCarthy 57 6.2 Boone Logan 158 2.9 Bobby Jenks 159 2.9 Neal Cotts 193 1.9 Matt Thornton 205 1.6 Freddy Garcia 284 -0.3 Jon Garland 345 -2.6 Cliff Politte 348 -2.8 -- Luis Vizcaino 86 4.9 Damaso Marte 195 1.9 Orlando Hernandez 301 -0.9 *out of 407 pitchers
April 26, 200619 yr It's stats like this that make me miss Timo. Wasn't he like the worst player in the AL in VORP terms last year?
April 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(bmags @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 06:06 PM) guys whats vorp... Look at the front panel of your car
April 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(RME JICO @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 04:49 PM) Some interesting numbers. 7 batters in the top 127, and 4 pitchers in the top 57. I know it is still early, but the team looks pretty solid. VORP Rankings MLB Rank VORP Jim Thome 4 17.0 Paul Konerko 15 11.6 Jermaine Dye 23 10.1 Joe Crede 88 5.5 Tadahito Iguchi 98 5.2 AJ Pierzynski 100 5.2 Pablo Ozuna 127 3.8 Alex Cintron 225 0.9 Ross Gload 254 0.4 WTF? A triple must mess with this Brian Anderson 391 -0.9 Juan Uribe 460 -2.0 Does this take D into account? Still errorless I believe Chris Widger 473 -2.4 Scott Podsednik 520 -4.1 Robert Mackowiak 524 -4.4 -- Aaron Rowand 110 4.8 Carl Everett 235 0.8 Willie Harris 443 -1.4 Frank Thomas 540 -5.7 * out of 551 batters ----------------------------------- Pitchers MLB Rank VORP Jose Contreras 1 15.9 Mark Buehrle 7 14.2 Javier Vazquez 31 8.4 Brandon McCarthy 57 6.2 Boone Logan 158 2.9 heh Bobby Jenks 159 2.9 Neal Cotts 193 1.9 Matt Thornton 205 1.6 Freddy Garcia 284 -0.3 Jon Garland 345 -2.6 Cliff Politte 348 -2.8 -- Luis Vizcaino 86 4.9 Damaso Marte 195 1.9 Orlando Hernandez 301 -0.9 [b]this shot up today[/b[ *out of 407 pitchers
April 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(bmags @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 04:06 PM) guys whats vorp... "Value Over Replacement Player".
April 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 06:09 PM) Good to see you appreciate African-Americans there, Balta..... He doesn't see color.
April 26, 200619 yr Holy smokes--Thome at 17 already! Jim Thome has passed his 60th percentile PECOTA projection by April 25th. Way to prove the computers wrong Jim! Paging Joe Morgan...Joe.... LOL @ Mackowiak. Mackowiak is the new Timo so far. Whatsup with that Uribe ranking? His line looks OK, maybe it's because he missed some time with injury, and a bunch of SS are ahead of him in PA. Yea, VORP does use defense. I'm not sure what measure though.
April 26, 200619 yr haha look at Jose C at the top! All i have to say is THANK YOU LOAZIA for that one flash in the pan season!!!
April 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 11:41 PM) Yea, VORP does use defense. I'm not sure what measure though. No, it doesn't. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary...php?search=VORP VORP scores do not consider the quality of a player's defense.
April 26, 200619 yr THANK YOU LOAZIA for that one flash in the pan season!!! A big thanks to Bryan Cashman and The Boss as well. AJ with a 5.5 already--that is excellent for him. I think these numbers show just how dominant this team has been so far. That and the RS/RA numbers are looking good too. I believe the Sox have the best Pythag right now as well.
April 27, 200619 yr No, it doesn't. I stand corrected. I thought it did. Maybe it's my aversion to all things BP since a rather bad customer service experience with them.
April 27, 200619 yr Shows what a fantastic start Jermaine Dye has had to the season. Man wasn't he a hell of a pickup back in the 04-05 off-season. Especially when the alternatives included the likes of Richard Hidalgo (got released from Baltimore a few weeks ago IIRC).
April 27, 200619 yr Yea, through dumb luck or careful planning KW hit gold with Dye and Iguchi especially--among last years signings.
April 28, 200619 yr Author QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 04:07 PM) Yea, through dumb luck or careful planning KW hit gold with Dye and Iguchi especially--among last years signings. I would consider AJ's signing in that category as well. He seemed like a considerable risk with the "cancer" talks and being on two teams in two years.
April 29, 200619 yr QUOTE(Damen @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 09:31 PM) You didn't know what VORP is? i have a life.
June 19, 200619 yr Author Updated VORP Rankings, as of June 19th. 7 hitters in the top 131 and 5 pitchers in the top 100. The Sox are the only team with 3 hitters in the top 30. Also, only one pitcher below zero. VORP Rankings MLB Rank VORP Jim Thome 16 29.5 Paul Konerko 19 27.3 Jermaine Dye 26 25.3 AJ Pierzynski 98 12.3 Pablo Ozuna 104 12.0 Tadahito Iguchi 124 9.7 Joe Crede 131 9.1 Robert Mackowiak 208 4.4 Alex Cintron 247 2.9 Chris Widger 351 0.4 Scott Podsednik 526 -0.7 Ross Gload 653 -3.1 Juan Uribe 726 -7.6 Brian Anderson 730 -8.3 * out of 743 batters ----------------------------------- Pitchers MLB Rank VORP Jose Contreras 10 30.2 Mark Buehrle 20 26.0 Javier Vazquez 50 14.9 Bobby Jenks 98 10.8 Freddy Garcia 99 10.8 Neal Cotts 132 8.9 Jon Garland 168 6.8 Brandon McCarthy 170 6.7 Matt Thornton 195 5.4 David Riske 336 0.7 Agustin Montero 349 0.4 Cliff Politte (DL) 461 -3.4 *out of 529 pitchers
June 20, 200619 yr Cool, thanks. Thome has slowed considerably, although still having an excellent season.
June 20, 200619 yr Biggest upgrade at DH in all of baseball. Carl Everett ended the year with a 6.3 VORP. From the DH position: Abolsutley PATHETIC. Good to see a power bat at a power position.
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