Coco Crisp offered for Mark Buehrle and Brad WIlkerson offered for one of our starters? What is up with that? Aren't starting pitchers at a premium? Shouldn't we be getting better offers than this? I just find this ridiculous.

Coco Crisp offered for Mark Buehrle and Brad WIlkerson offered for one of our starters? What is up with that? Aren't starting pitchers at a premium? Shouldn't we be getting better offers than this? I just find this ridiculous.

 

not when our starters are pitching like crap

They suck this year. I guess GM's aren't as dumb as we would hope.

What would you give for pitchers that have ERA's over 4.50 and nearly 10 mil a year?

I'd love to get Wilkerson for Garcia. Wilkerson's no great shakes, but he's far better than Pods.

I'd love to get Wilkerson for Garcia. Wilkerson's no great shakes, but he's far better than Pods.

Wilk for Vaz. Done

keep javy, brad would only be a sub at best (he's not taking pods position and brian is really coming around)

 

Even though everyone thinks javy sucks, i like him and if he could go after hitters more when they have two strikes then that would be the best

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What would you give for pitchers that have ERA's over 4.50 and nearly 10 mil a year?

 

 

 

WIth Buehrle's and Garcia's not too far in the past success, I would think more than Coco Crisp and Brad Wilkerson. Buehrle was very good as lately as earlier this year. Garcia has been pretty good lately. Their velocity is down, but Wilkerson and Crisp for these kinds of starters? I would think you should get better than that.

 

 

 

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Wilk for Vaz. Done

 

 

 

a .250 hitter career hitter. A .235 hitter this year? Who does nothing very good? How is he better than what we already have? I don't get it.

a .250 hitter career hitter. A .235 hitter this year? Who does nothing very good? How is he better than what we already have? I don't get it.

BMAC in the rotation +wilkerson>Vaz

So Oliver Perez for Xavier Nady is apparently in talks or done. Can't figure out which.

So Oliver Perez for Xavier Nady is apparently in talks or done. Can't figure out which.

"The Mets have made a move they will hope will boost their suddenly lackluster rotation, sending outfielder Xavier Nady to the Pirates for left-hander Oliver Perez and reliever Roberto Hernandez, sources have told SI.com."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writ...ades/index.html

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BMAC in the rotation +wilkerson>Vaz

 

 

 

McCarthy in the rotation, then who is in the pen to take his place? Where does Wilkerson fit? He is not better than Pods at Pods' worst. It just doesn't add up. It especially doesn't add up to BMAC in the rotation +wilkerson>Vaz when there is not a bullpen replacement and you have no place for Wilkerson.

McCarthy in the rotation, then who is in the pen to take his place? Where does Wilkerson fit? He is not better than Pods at Pods' worst. It just doesn't add up. It especially doesn't add up to BMAC in the rotation +wilkerson>Vaz when there is not a bullpen replacement and you have no place for Wilkerson.

BMAC in the rotation +bag of balls > Vaz

 

more clear?

BMAC in the rotation +wilkerson>Vaz

 

Who replaces BMAC as a reliever then? We DON'T need more offense. We need pitching terribly! If our starting pitchers can turn around, we will win the final playoff spot, or even the division. No way I would trade Vazquez for Wilkerson straight up.

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So Oliver Perez for Xavier Nady is apparently in talks or done. Can't figure out which.

 

 

 

It is done. The Mets made a boo boo. THis was a very dumb move if you ask me. Oliver Perez has sucked ass for about 2 years now. They do get Roberto Hernandez as well. I recall Lloyd McClendon talking about his arm last year and saying how he has to start to learn how to pitch because he no longer has a power arm.

 

 

 

Here is why they made the deal:

 

 

 

Duaner Sanchez seperates his shoulder.

 

 

 

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BMAC in the rotation +bag of balls > Vaz

 

more clear?

 

 

 

No it really isn't and you are making no sense at all. In fact I think it is an idiotic statement to make for the reasons I already mentioned. Who replaces BMAC in the rotation. I don't believe you are thinking this all the way through.

No it really isn't and you are making no sense at all. In fact I think it is an idiotic statement to make for the reasons I already mentioned. Who replaces BMAC in the rotation. I don't believe you are thinking this all the way through.

There are several guys in our system capable of emulating BMacs performance from the bullpen. (Tracey)

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There are several guys in our system capable of emulating BMacs performance from the bullpen. (Tracey)

 

 

 

Then why are we looking for bullpen help and why did we go out and get bullpen help if we have several arms in the system that can replace a great arm like BMac's in the pen? How does that make sense?

Then why are we looking for bullpen help and why did we go out and get bullpen help if we have several arms in the system that can replace a great arm like BMac's in the pen? How does that make sense?

 

SSI, forget it man. Quite a few people on here are just wanting to have a trade just for the sake of excitement and making a trade. Trading Wilderson for Vazquez is a stupid trade to me as well!

Then why are we looking for bullpen help and why did we go out and get bullpen help if we have several arms in the system that can replace a great arm like BMac's in the pen? How does that make sense?

Great arm=4.17 ERA?

 

BMAC is a good starter, better than Vaz. Taking him out of the pen and putting him into the rotation improves the entire staff.

Then why are we looking for bullpen help and why did we go out and get bullpen help if we have several arms in the system that can replace a great arm like BMac's in the pen? How does that make sense?

 

We want to get Vazquez and his high paycheck out of Chicago. Not to mention BMac hasn't been showing a "great arm" out of the pen this year. He's probably our second to worst reliever.

Edited July 31, 200619 yr by Jake

Coco Crisp offered for Mark Buehrle and Brad WIlkerson offered for one of our starters? What is up with that? Aren't starting pitchers at a premium? Shouldn't we be getting better offers than this? I just find this ridiculous.

 

I've offered to kill them but KW has not returned my calls.

We want to get Vazquez and his high paycheck out of Chicago.

And his high ERA.

And his high ERA.

 

And his lackluster attitude.

And his lackluster attitude.

 

and the fact that he buckles like a belt the minute someone gets a hit past the 5th inning.

and the fact that he buckles like a belt the minute someone gets a hit past the 5th inning.

Vaz for the Chorizo sausage, straight up.