August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 09:45 PM) Do you really think Fields could come up right now and produce? I really don't believe he could, think Brian Anderson in April, but worse at the plate and without the fantastic d. There's not a chance in hell that Fields would be as bad as (April) Anderson was at the plate. If he is, then we really screwed up by not trading him when his value was sky high. His defense isn't good, but neither is Mackowiak or Ozuna at 3B. It's one of the main reasons why Crede is one of our 2 most irreplaceable guys (AJP the other).
August 7, 200619 yr So can anyone actually provide confirmation at least of hearing this same report on the Score or give more details about what it included?
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 04:54 PM) There's not a chance in hell that Fields would be as bad as (April) Anderson was at the plate. He'd be worse, there's really no doubt in my mind.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 02:50 PM) Crede is argubly our best all-around player. That belongs to Jermaine Dye in my opinion, but I don't want to sound like losing Crede wouldn't hurt.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 09:55 PM) He'd be worse, there's really no doubt in my mind. I think Fields could put up better than 4 extra base hits in 62 ABs and have an OPS higher than .550. I really admire the way Anderson is hitting now, because he looked like a little leaguer the first two months of this season. Fields will K a lot, but he does have some pop in his bat.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 04:57 PM) I think Fields could put up better than 4 extra base hits in 62 ABs and have an OPS higher than .550. I really admire the way Anderson is hitting now, because he looked like a little leaguer the first two months of this season. Fields will K a lot, but he does have some pop in his bat. Ok, I should have added that he'd hit run into a few more. He'd hit for a worse average though, that's what I was trying to say.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 04:55 PM) He'd be worse, there's really no doubt in my mind. Then it's settled. When Rowand says "there's no doubt in my mind," the debate ends.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 02:58 PM) Ok, I should have added that he'd hit run into a few more. He'd hit for a worse average though, that's what I was trying to say. Worse than .159? Hell, I think it'd be hard for most people in the big leagues to be worse than that if they had to face a pitching staff of Liriano, Santana, Brandon Webb, Jose Conteras, and Mariano Rivera every day.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 09:58 PM) Ok, I should have added that he'd hit run into a few more. He'd hit for a worse average though, that's what I was trying to say. Here's some role reversal. I'm being optimistic about a player, and you're being pessimistic.
August 7, 200619 yr Crede has been giving us production in the low half of the order, he gives us a power stroke who hits clutch shots late in the game. Hopefully he can get better without going on the DL. He will be missed if he goes down. If he is down, you bring up Fields. Lets see what the kid can do.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 09:51 PM) Play Ozuna at 3rd, occasionally spelled by Mack. People may forget, but Ozuna got to a point where he didn't do that bad over there last year. Obviously nothing like Crede, but passable. Why not just platoon Mackowiak and Cintron? Better defensively and offensively. Cintron career OPS vs lefties -- .794. Mack career OPS vs righties -- .760. It's not Joe Crede version 2006, but who are we kidding? Nobody would be. However, the platoon above would be the best possible replacement. If anything, I'd call up Fields and give Podsednik a real platoon partner. Fields OPS vs lefties this year is 1.083. Looks like this is all mute if Crede is in the lineup tonight. Edited August 7, 200619 yr by CWSGuy406
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 05:01 PM) update on right now: crede's in the line up tonight. I guess they flipped for the limber chinese girl to walk on his back for 10 minutes then.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 03:01 PM) update on right now: crede's in the line up tonight. LOL, Does happy dance... Somehow, about 10 posts ago, I had a feeling that would happen. Edited August 7, 200619 yr by Balta1701
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 05:01 PM) update on right now: crede's in the line up tonight. Thread ends for me with this post.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 04:57 PM) I think Fields could put up better than 4 extra base hits in 62 ABs and have an OPS higher than .550. I really admire the way Anderson is hitting now, because he looked like a little leaguer the first two months of this season. Fields will K a lot, but he does have some pop in his bat. He had 5 extra base hits in 90 July ABs in Charlotte, striking out 28 times. He is/would-be very hit and miss. He has a better shot than Brain did of being a dangerous hitter immediately upon call-up, but he also figures to struggle as bad, if not, worse than Brian did. And this is all moot because Crede is in the line-up tonight.
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 05:02 PM) Looks like this is all mute if Crede is in the lineup tonight. I assume you meant moot.
August 7, 200619 yr If Crede is in the lineup after all the first clue should have been the fact it was on the SCORE!
August 7, 200619 yr QUOTE(joeynach @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 04:16 PM) I didn't catch the whole thing becuase I tuned in at the last second but I thought I heard the update guy say Crede's back is still bothering him and he wont play tonight and he might go to the DL. Anyone else hear this or have any info? he actually said that crede will play tonight, and its uribe who could end up on the DL.
August 8, 200619 yr Author QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 05:22 PM) Maybe they meant Uribe? Yes it is Uribe they were talking about. When they said back trouble and possible DL i thought they were talking about Crede but it is actually Uribe. We will see what happens. We have some viable backups there in cintron and ozuna.
August 8, 200619 yr QUOTE(joeynach @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 09:12 AM) Yes it is Uribe they were talking about. When they said back trouble and possible DL i thought they were talking about Crede but it is actually Uribe. We will see what happens. We have some viable backups there in cintron and ozuna. Ozuna at SS is not what I would call viable. He can play 3B, but at SS he looked awful when he played last year.
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