December 31, 200619 yr Welcome aboard Billa. Personally speaking I'm one of the few Weaver fans on this board. However, with Boras as his agent there is a belief by many posters (and probably an accurate belief) that Weaver will not be a member of the Sox. However, Ken Williams has long been a fan of Weaver and we know when Kenny targets a guy his interest usually lasts for a long period of time. My thinking is if the Mets (or some other team) blow the Sox away in an offer for Buehrle (who I'd assume is as good as gone at the end of the season) than we need to make that deal, sign Weaver, find a way to grab another big bat (to make the offense so good that it can help buy time for the young pitching to come around) and hope we can develop the guys we acquired (knowing we'd have stockpiled an absolute assload of arms).
December 31, 200619 yr I think Weaver showed this season, he can only be successful in the right environment (the NL) and when he keeps the ball down in the zone, like he did for the Cardinals. We'd only offer him a 1 year contract, and I can't see him signing with us for that in this current marketplace. Personally I think he'll re-sign with the Cards. They need SP's badly.
December 31, 200619 yr Boras guy. terrible in the AL. disliked by teammates. refused to sign with Sox after they drafted him. involved in the brawl as a Tiger during the 2000 season. HE GAWN from our radar. He's got a good arm so we know Boras would want too much money for too many years. And some dumbass team will be willing to pay.
December 31, 200619 yr The Sox under KW have been interested in Weaver before. As a FA I thnk it all depends on what hios asking price is and with Boras as his agent I think it will be pretty high. Probably not a great investment, if it's too high, based on his inconsistent production. I just have to wonder, if one more of our starters doesn't get dealt for a number of high end pitching prospects, which then makes signing of a Jeff Weaver more plausible?
December 31, 200619 yr jeff weaver is a loser anyone remember his involvement in the BIG BRAWL vs det 3 or 4 years ago. weaver-fick- all jerks Dont want weaver, if we did get him, first thing have a.j. kick his butt!!!!
December 31, 200619 yr QUOTE(Chet Lemon @ Dec 31, 2006 -> 11:57 AM) read in the paper today that he was looking for a four-yr. $40 mil. contract. Some unfortunate team would live to regret that deal.
December 31, 200619 yr QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Dec 31, 2006 -> 03:15 PM) Boras guy. terrible in the AL. disliked by teammates. refused to sign with Sox after they drafted him. involved in the brawl as a Tiger during the 2000 season. HE GAWN from our radar. He's got a good arm so we know Boras would want too much money for too many years. And some dumbass team will be willing to pay. I agree on all of those except I wouldn't say he has a good arm. It is pretty bad when you get designated for assignment as a veteran. He will get his money because he has Boras, but he doesn't seem like a good fit for the Sox.
December 31, 200619 yr QUOTE(Chet Lemon @ Dec 31, 2006 -> 11:57 AM) read in the paper today that he was looking for a four-yr. $40 mil. contract. So in 2005 he goes 14-11 and has to settle for a 1 year $8.5 million contract. He then goes 8-14 with a 5.76 ERA and now is looking for 4 years and $40 million? If any GM signs off on something even close to this, he needs to be committed. I would take the guy with a 1 year incentive-laiden contract, with some options, but other than that, let him go get lit up in another uniform.
December 31, 200619 yr For what purpose ? How many seasons ? With the current roster, there's no way - we have 4 veteran starters, and I think Kenny wants the 5th to emerge from Gavin Floyd/Charlie Haeger/John Denks. If they were to trade another veteran starter, maybe, but I don't think Kenny would want to block the way for any of his young pitchers who he is obviously high on. So, in this scenario, where Buerhle or Vazquez is traded, it may be possible for the White Sox to add a veteran pitcher, but only as a stopgap option, meaning a 1 year deal with a club option type deal. You never know, some guys the later it gets, may jump at something like that, but give the craziness in this market, I'm guessing someone will step up and give him at least 3 years.
December 31, 200619 yr QUOTE(Billa313 @ Dec 31, 2006 -> 08:34 PM) I think he's more worthy of fourty mill then Ted Lilly is ahaha Neither are worth that amount, but at least Lilly is somewhat serviceable and LH.
December 31, 200619 yr Author QUOTE(RME JICO @ Dec 31, 2006 -> 02:40 PM) Neither are worth that amount, but at least Lilly is somewhat serviceable and LH. I agree that neither are worth 40 but Weaver is a better pitcher imo
December 31, 200619 yr QUOTE(Billa313 @ Dec 31, 2006 -> 01:01 PM) I agree that neither are worth 40 but Weaver is a better pitcher imo Weaver "Could be" the better pitcher, but certainly hasn't been it so far in his career.
December 31, 200619 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 31, 2006 -> 03:04 PM) Weaver "Could be" the better pitcher, but certainly hasn't been it so far in his career. Lilly is a better pitcher, but, when he's on his game, Weaver is a more dominating one (that happens to be far and few though).
January 3, 200719 yr QUOTE(The Critic @ Dec 31, 2006 -> 06:19 PM) Some unfortunate team would live to regret that deal. I wish I could interest some of these crazy GM's in the swamp land I have for sale in Arizona. I'm ready to deal.
January 4, 200719 yr QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 03:50 PM) I wish I could interest some of these crazy GM's in the swamp land I have for sale in Arizona. I'm ready to deal. Actually, last I heard, they were thinking of tearing down Biosphere 2 to build a housing development, so you're probably in good shape if you're the guy owning that land.
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