Balta1701 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 02:08 PM) Just got back from class, how's Danks looking? 4-0 D Backs, top 4th inning, 5 hits, 5 walks, 1 HR given up by Danks. 6 straight pitches out of the strike zone brings out Ozzie. 7. Edited March 28, 2007 by Balta1701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 04:10 PM) 4-0 D Backs, top 4th inning, 5 hits, 5 walks, 1 HR given up by Danks. Oh fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 These walks are inexcusable. I don't care if he's a rookie. If he's doing this in the season, he'll stay will be short lived. 39 balls, 36 strikes is disgusting from anyone. Especially someone who was noted for his control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 04:08 PM) Just got back from class, how's Danks looking? Pretty much exactly like he did last time out. QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 04:12 PM) These walks are inexcusable. I don't care if he's a rookie. If he's doing this in the season, he'll stay will be short lived. 39 balls, 36 strikes is disgusting from anyone. Especially someone who was noted for his control. Before he got his final three outs in his last outing he was sitting at 24 balls and 22 strikes. That's why I was down on his last outing. Danks hasn't exactly been noted for his control prior to arriving in camp. Look at his minor league numbers. They certainly don't scream control pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 03:14 PM) Danks hasn't exactly been noted for his control prior to arriving in camp. Look at his minor league numbers. They certainly don't scream control pitcher. I meant this spring. At a certain point, IIRC, he had a ratio of 14 strikeouts to 1 walk. Guillen was going on and on about him throwing strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ozzie was complaining in the press yesterday because Boone walked two guys. However, the last week or so, he's been saying how much he likes Danks cause he can throw strikes? Didn't Danks walk 4 guys in his last outing? I would still love to bet anyone that McCarthy's ERA will be better this year than whoever is our 5th starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 03:18 PM) I would still love to bet anyone that McCarthy's ERA will be better this year than whoever is our 5th starter. Is this a highly contested point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 04:17 PM) I meant this spring. At a certain point, IIRC, he had a ratio of 14 strikeouts to 1 walk. Guillen was going on and on about him throwing strikes. Which should you believe, 10 random innings in Tucson, or a minor league career spanning (without looking it up) 450 innings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 02:22 PM) Is this a highly contested point? Right now, it looks like the real question is...will any of our starting pitchers put up a lower ERA than McCarthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 JESUS f***ING CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:22 PM) Is this a highly contested point? Oh yeah. It amazes me how many people think we can just throw "name your pitcher" into the 5th starting role, and at worst, they'll have a 5.50 ERA. The common argument is that the list of guys we have up for contention is better than the busters in 2004. However, the minor league numbers for many of the 2004 busters were just as good as the guys we've been trying out for the 5th starter spot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Walk # 6.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:23 PM) Which should you believe, 10 random innings in Tucson, or a minor league career spanning (without looking it up) 450 innings? Totally different game though facing major league hitters. When I was watching Danks last game, he was throwing a lot of high fastballs (at 91 mph, that pitch might go a long way). In the minors, you'll get more guys swinging at that pitch than you will in the majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 This ump has a very tight strike zone but that is no excuse to have 6 walks in an outing... period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 02:24 PM) Oh yeah. It amazes me how many people think we can just throw "name your pitcher" into the 5th starting role, and at worst, they'll have a 5.50 ERA. The common argument is that the list of guys we have up for contention is better than the busters in 2004. However, the minor league numbers for many of the 2004 busters were just as good as the guys we've been trying out for the 5th starter spot now. Saying they should be able to pull out a 5.50 ERA is a lot different from saying they'll have a lower ERA than McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(TheOcho @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 04:25 PM) This ump has a very tight strike zone but that is no excuse to have 6 walks in an outing... period. 80% of these balls aren't even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 03:18 PM) I would still love to bet anyone that McCarthy's ERA will be better this year than whoever is our 5th starter. Considering the competition Danks will have within our division, and the possible hurting he will receive from 4+ walk outings such as today, there's a good probability you'll be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 03:24 PM) Oh yeah. It amazes me how many people think we can just throw "name your pitcher" into the 5th starting role, and at worst, they'll have a 5.50 ERA. The common argument is that the list of guys we have up for contention is better than the busters in 2004. However, the minor league numbers for many of the 2004 busters were just as good as the guys we've been trying out for the 5th starter spot now. I'm amazed that individuals on this board could think that after 2004. But you will make a lot of money if you take people up on that bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Seriously Farmer...how the Hell could Danks's legs be tired at this point?> 5-0 DBacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:25 PM) Saying they should be able to pull out a 5.50 ERA is a lot different from saying they'll have a lower ERA than McCarthy. Trust me, there were people on here over the last few weeks saying that Danks or Floyd would put up a similar/better ERA to McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Why is he still in at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 02:27 PM) Why is he still in at this point? It's spring training and the games don't matter? Anyway, there he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I don't bet on baseball, but if Santana does face Danks during that 2nd series of the year, you could make a lot of money betting on the Twins. I like Danks, and think he'll eventually be a good #3 starter, but he's going to have a lot of trouble in the majors right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 03:23 PM) Which should you believe, 10 random innings in Tucson, or a minor league career spanning (without looking it up) 450 innings? No doubt the 450 innings. I'm just suggesting for a pitcher known for control this spring, especially to Guillen, he'll ride himself out of Chicago quickly with starts such as today. Remember, he won the spot this spring based upon the 20 random Tuscon innings, not his career numbers. Edited March 28, 2007 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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