You don't actually believe that, do you? Because that was Obama's second book in any case.

 

Dude, Edwards invented the idea of books and health care reform. Obama and Clinton just stole it from him!

Not sure if this has been posted, but the Clinton's loaned Hillary's campaign $5 million today.

Quick question:

It says she LOANED her campaign the money. How does that compare to Mitt Romney? I though he just gave his campaign money. Hillary is loaning her money? Not ballsy enough to actually play with her real money?

Quick question:

It says she LOANED her campaign the money. How does that compare to Mitt Romney? I though he just gave his campaign money. Hillary is loaning her money? Not ballsy enough to actually play with her real money?

The government of Kazakhstan wants interest on their money. They don't just give it away.

 

/snark

Quick update. With things pretty much settled in terms of delegates, RealPolitics has the current standings in PLEDGED delegates as of today as:

 

Obama: 851

Clinton: 845

 

All the supers are able to do what they want later, so, their count doesn't mean a ton right now. But the supers are currently, by RP's count:

 

Clinton: 211

Obama: 128

 

Which puts the total, including those flexible supers, at:

 

Clinton: 1056

Obama: 979

 

Very close race indeed. No polls out yet in the upcoming Feb primaries the next couple week. There will be tomorrow I'd bet, for the 2/10 states. But early indications are that the rest of Feb favors Obama, and then there is the money situation. Plus Edwards, Gore and Richardson still out there having not yet endorsed anyone. This thing is far from over.

 

Colbert on Hillary: Clap Clap Point Point

Quick update. With things pretty much settled in terms of delegates, RealPolitics has the current standings in PLEDGED delegates as of today as:

Obama: 851

Clinton: 845

According to MSNBC, I have this count (all pledged delegates to date):

Obama: 838

Clinton: 834

Edwards: 26

Unknown (delegates that have yet to be assigned from Super Tuesday): 127

HOLY COW!

$7,595,926 (as of 10:13 AM)

Obama Raises $7M Post Super Tuesday

I'd love a floor fight, the speeches will be amazing and embarrasing. Fights, stuff tossed.

SurveyUSA publishes a poll for Washington, the biggest prize of the Feb 9-10 primary weekend (97 delegates for the Dems at stake in WA, 40 for the GOP). But, strangely enough, Washington is apparently doing a caucus on the 9th, then a primary on the 19th. I have no idea what that does for delegates... I assume the primary is the binding one, so... the caucus is just a preview? Weird. Anyway, poll results...

 

DEMOCRATS...

Obama: 53%

Clinton: 40%

 

REPUBLICANS...

McCain: 40%

Romney: 26%

Huckabee: 17%

Paul: 9%

 

The primary may be for local/state/senate/congressional candidates only.

I'll believe this when I see it.

 

Gore

Blow me up if this is a really stupid question but could Al Gore want to be a VP with Obama because he really thinks there is an opportunity to have a say in politics and worldwide without having to run for president? Hence holding off on an endorsement until he sees the gravatational draw of the Obama candidacy.......

 

I am pretty ignorant to politics compared to those in this forum BTW.

I'll believe this when I see it.

 

Gore

Vice President Gore He has the experience for the job.

I did not read the Gore attachment before posting my thoughts.

Blow me up if this is a really stupid question but could Al Gore want to be a VP with Obama because he really thinks there is an opportunity to have a say in politics and worldwide without having to run for president? Hence holding off on an endorsement until he sees the gravatational draw of the Obama candidacy.......

 

I am pretty ignorant to politics compared to those in this forum BTW.

Could be. That's not an ignorant thought at all. My guess is he wants to be part of an administration, but continue his work - so he likely wouldn't be a VP. Some sort of non-cabinet post, SubSecEnvironment or something that they'd make up. That's just my guess, though.

 

I'll believe this when I see it.

 

Gore

oh I just wet myself. lol

 

Seriously, Gore knows the Clintons as well as anyone having worked with them for 8+ years. He knows their slimmyness and problems.

 

I know some would rather see him work around the world, but I would LOVE to see him as Secretary of Energy. He's be the "Anti-Cheney". While Cheney and his chronies pushed pro-oil, Gore would push pro-alternative energy. Not to mention his "street cred" with the youth of America and environmentally conscious people.

Edited February 7, 200818 yr by Athomeboy_2000

oh I just wet myself. lol

Seriously, Gore knows the Clintons as well as anyone having worked with them for 8+ years. He knows their slimmyness and problems.

I know some would rather see him work around the world, but I would LOVE to see him as Secretary of Energy. He's be the "Anti-Cheney". While Cheney and his chronies pushed pro-oil, Gore would push pro-alternative energy.

 

I actually like that idea.

 

 

 

 

BRB ... going to take my temperature.

Could be. That's not an ignorant thought at all. My guess is he wants to be part of an administration, but continue his work - so he likely wouldn't be a VP. Some sort of non-cabinet post, SubSecEnvironment or something that they'd make up. That's just my guess, though.

At least based on his other recent behaviour, my guess is the opposite...that Al has realized there's some value to not being a figure in this campaign, to just sort of being this god-like figure outside of politics that everyone has to pay some level of attention to. Even half the Republicans started saying anthropogenic climate change is real, and he's been a big part of that.

I actually like that idea.

 

 

 

 

BRB ... going to take my temperature.

 

I likw it too, which is why it will never happen

I likw it too, which is why it will never happen

Because you're voting for McCain.

Rasmussen Reports: Obama and Clintons tied at 44%

 

Interesting Point:

I have long said, "If you aren't for Hillary, you are against her". Well, look at the stats. She has been consistently 35-45%. However, Obama has been in the mid to high 20s. Over the past 2 months, Obama has been pulling MANY of the undecideds and other candidates. He has jumped to 44%. Where is Hillary? Still where she was 3 months ago.

Rasmussen Reports: Obama and Clintons tied at 44%

 

Interesting Point:

I have long said, "If you aren't for Hillary, you are against her". Well, look at the stats. She has been consistently 35-45%. However, Obama has been in the mid to high 20s. Over the past 2 months, Obama has been pulling MANY of the undecideds and other candidates. He has jumped to 44%. Where is Hillary? Still where she was 3 months ago.

 

Yes, it's looking better for Obama every day. Hillary's gotta get her groove on.

Hillary's gotta get her groove on.

She already has her grove on: Clap Clap Point Point

She already has her grove on: Clap Clap Point Point

 

I stand corrected.

On this issue, I think the Clintons are correct.

 

Ah good old Clintonian double-talk... Guess who has spent $5 million out their own pockets, and is still slipping in the polls...