June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that the season is over? Guess we won't be seeing you as much in Pale Hose Talk? Doubt you live up to it. Erstad isn't a major loss. Edited June 1, 200718 yr by santo=dorf
June 1, 200718 yr It ain't totally over...but it's got one foot off the ledge, and there's a guy behind you with a bat.
June 1, 200718 yr Only one? You haven't been reading many posts around here it seems I lost faith on the Wednesday Twin game. That game really, really hurt me. I can't really say why, but it felt like my heart was taken out and beaten to a pulp. I'll still root for this team as much as I can, but yea, this season falling further and further away. Edited June 1, 200718 yr by Felix
June 1, 200718 yr Author QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:55 PM) Guess we won't be seeing you as much in Pale Hose Talk? Doubt you live up to it. Erstad isn't a major loss. You doubt I live up to what? I didn't say anything about leaving. I'll still watch the games. I'll still post my thoughts. But I've been saying for awhile that we aren't very good, and today was the final straw, although this whole damn week has sucked.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:55 PM) Guess we won't be seeing you as much in Pale Hose Talk? Doubt you live up to it. Erstad isn't a major loss. Umm...and that's because Terrero will do such a good job replacing him? Let me guess, you prefer Sweeney or Anderson in CF? Well, that's not going to happen, I highly doubt we'll ever see Brian Anderson with the major league team again.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You doubt I live up to what? I didn't say anything about leaving. I'll still watch the games. I'll still post my thoughts. But I've been saying for awhile that we aren't very good, and today was the final straw, although this whole damn week has sucked. I expect for someone to say "the season is over" that person will show less emotion and pay less attention to that team. QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Umm...and that's because Terrero will do such a good job replacing him? Let me guess, you prefer Sweeney or Anderson in CF? Well, that's not going to happen, I highly doubt we'll ever see Brian Anderson with the major league team again. Oh, just how will we ever make up for Erstad's .658 OPS? Trade for an average major league outfielder perhaps?
June 1, 200718 yr Author I don't care what you expect. I'm being realistic. This season is over. I'll follow, but I'm not going to pretend that this is a good team. Time to tear it down and rebuild.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:59 PM) Umm...and that's because Terrero will do such a good job replacing him? Let me guess, you prefer Sweeney or Anderson in CF? Well, that's not going to happen, I highly doubt we'll ever see Brian Anderson with the major league team again. Owens will be replacing him, and there is a damn good chance he will do a better job. Erstad and his .316 on base percentage won't be a huge loss.
June 1, 200718 yr I think its calming to say "the season is over." It puts your mind at ease. After saying it you, you feel like you've set the bar so low that there can be no let down. Come on, say it with me if you like.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 31, 2007 -> 10:16 PM) Owens will be replacing him, and there is a damn good chance he will do a better job. Erstad and his .316 on base percentage won't be a huge loss. Yeah, I fully expect Owens to have a .350 OBP as the leadoff hitter. No pressure there, you're only coming into a five game losing streak with every writer in Chicago waiting to pounce on KW, Guillen and Walker after every single loss...pretty soon, they're going to be at the point where they fire Walker, simply because that's the way every sports franchise reacts to underachieving/underperformance. LOL. .350 That's where Erstad was as our leadoff hitter coming into the last couple of games, not sure exactly where he's at now. When Anderson, Sweeney and Fields have struggled and flirted with .200 as big leaguers, we're projecting someone who's not one of our Top 15 prospects to all of a sudden become another Juan Pierre or Bip Roberts? It took Crede and Rowand three seasons to "get it." If Crede has actually gotten it! By the way, Owens makes Johnny Damon look like Roberto Clemente or Vladimir Guerrero with that arm of his. He's not a CFer, which means we're playing Luis Terrero, a 27 year old former top prospect who the Orioles and D-Backs gave up on. This should be interesting.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 31, 2007 -> 10:28 PM) .350 That's where Erstad was as our leadoff hitter coming into the last couple of games, not sure exactly where he's at now. <.345>
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:59 PM) Umm...and that's because Terrero will do such a good job replacing him? Let me guess, you prefer Sweeney or Anderson in CF? Well, that's not going to happen, I highly doubt we'll ever see Brian Anderson with the major league team again. Yeah, you're right. Erstad's a MAJOR loss. It takes a lot to put up an OPS of .680 as an OFer. Worst case scenario: The Sox didn't get any worse today. Best case scenario: They just got better. Maybe now KW will be forced to go out and get a real OFer, and Erstad's injury assures that he won't be back for 2008, which is a big positive for the franchise.
June 1, 200718 yr I'll guarantee that the Sox will bring back Erstad next season, even if he doesn't meet his option incentives.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 12:25 AM) I'll guarantee that the Sox will bring back Erstad next season, even if he doesn't meet his option incentives. And as soon as that happens, KW should not only be fired, but banned from baseball entirely.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(TheHolyBovine @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 05:28 AM) And as soon as that happens, KW should not only be fired, but banned from baseball entirely. I think it would be Ozzie clamoring to bring him back. Sadly, I'm sure you'll hear us associated with the likes of Chone Figgins, David Eckstein, etc.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 12:25 AM) I'll guarantee that the Sox will bring back Erstad next season, even if he doesn't meet his option incentives. $3.5M, that's how much he'd cost to bring back assuming he doesn't reach 600 PAs. That's just peachy.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 12:25 AM) I'll guarantee that the Sox will bring back Erstad next season, even if he doesn't meet his option incentives. I agree. Who wouldn't want to bring back the perennially injured below average grinder? If either Pods or Erstad sniffs the roster next season, Kenny needs his head examined and returns to the Krivsky/Bowden level of MLB GMs
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 12:30 AM) I think it would be Ozzie clamoring to bring him back. Sadly, I'm sure you'll hear us associated with the likes of Chone Figgins, David Eckstein, etc. You're right; Ozzie does have far too much say in the transactions made by this organization. That being said, there will come a point (and sooner rather than later, I think) when KW will need to make decisions based on keeping his own job rather than enabling Ozzie.
June 1, 200718 yr why do people feel the need to make these declarations? Seriously, I'm curious, what's the appeal of declaring the season over?
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 12:46 AM) why do people feel the need to make these declarations? Seriously, I'm curious, what's the appeal of declaring the season over? I love the Sox as much as anyone, but sometimes objective reality forces my hand.
June 1, 200718 yr QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 12:46 AM) why do people feel the need to make these declarations? Seriously, I'm curious, what's the appeal of declaring the season over? Maybe it's something to do with the fact that we're in the toughest division in baseball. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that our team finds a different way to lose every game.
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