If FutureSox did their Top 25 today......

[OilCan]

Ok, here's FS' Top 25 as of 6/4:

 

The Complete FutureSox Top 25:

25. Dewon Day

24. Robert Valido

23. Francisco Hernandez

22. Justin Cassel

21. Pedro Lopez

20. Brian Omogrosso

19. Chris Getz

18. Jerry Owens

17. Oneli Perez

16. Boone Logan

15. Heath Phillips

14. Lucas Harrell

13. Wes Whisler

12. Charlie Haeger

11. Chris Carter

10. Kyle McCulloch

9. Jack Egbert

8. Adam Russell

7. Nick Masset

6. Aaron Cunningham

5. Lance Broadway

4. Ryan Sweeney

3. Gio Gonzalez

2. Josh Fields

1. John Danks

 

Now....since the draft has occured, I wonder how it looks now?

Here's my Top 10:

 

1. Gio Gonzalez

2. Ryan Sweeney

3. Jack Egbert

4. Fautino DeLosSantos

5. Danny Richar

6. Aaron Poreda

7. Chris Carter

8. Lance Broadway

9. Kyle McCullouch

10. Adam Russell

 

Let me know if I'm off my rocker or if I need any ore

Analysis based on current stats, blogs, and various websites.

 

[BearSox]

top 10 right now for me would be...

 

1. Ryan Sweeney

2. Gio Gonzalez

3. Faustino De Los Santos

4. Jack Egbert

5. Danny Richar

6. Chris Carter

7. Lance Broadway

8. Adam Russell

9. Kyle McCulloch

10. Aaron Poreda

[Heads22]

eh, my ttop 5 would look like

 

1. Gio Gonzalez

2. Danny Richar

3. Ryan Sweeney

4. Jack Egbert

5. Fautino De Los Santos

 

With names such as Carter trailing behind.

 

I'd really rather have Sweeney #5, but I just can't do it.

 

Of course, that's also based mainly off of how they are doing right now.

[3E8]

1. Gio

2. DLS

3. Sweeney

4. Egbert

5. Carter

[witesoxfan]

1. DLS

2. Egbert

3. Gio

4. Sweeney

5. Carter

 

DLS, if he can remain healthy, will be a major leaguer someday. Egbert should find the rotation at some point and take his place for a while. Gio could be very good, but I just can't help but not like his flameout possibility. The other two are easy to figure out why.

[Sonik22]

1. Gio

2. Sweeney

3. Richar

4. DLS

5. Eggy

6. Carter

7. Broadway

8. McCullouch

9. Russell

10. Poreda

[danman31]

These are fun. We sure nailed the top two at least, in fact the top 3 looks good to date. I'll make a top 20 or so because I'm bored. Danks, Fields, Masset, Haeger, Logan, and Owens aren't getting counted because of either too much time on the Sox or in the case of Haeger, he is currently on the team.

 

28. Brandon Allen

27. Micah Schnurstein

26. Fernando Hernandez

25. Heath Phillips

24. Carlos Vasquez

23. John Shelby

22. Francisco Hernandez

21. Justin Cassel

20. Lucas Harrell

19. Brian Omogrosso

18. Clayton Richard

17. Derek Rodriguez

16. Donny Lucy

15. Thomas Collaro

14. Oneli Perez

13. Nevin Griffith (hard to say where to put him, but it's not like we have much left at this point)

12. Dewon Day

11. Chris Getz (man, that was tough. HUGE dropoff after Kyle)

10. Kyle McCulloch

9. Adam Russell

8. Aaron Poreda

7. Lance Broadway

6. Danny Richar

5. Jack Egbert

4. Chris Carter

3. Fautino De Los Santos

2. Ryan Sweeney (as much as I think he's going to be a bust/disappointment, he has been in the Majors and will be again. The other contenders for this spot can't say that.)

1. Gio Gonzalez

 

That was a depressing exercise.

[Heads22]

John Ely has a higher cieling than Heath Phillips.

[danman31]

John Ely has a higher cieling than Heath Phillips.

Yeah, but I ignored rookie ball. I couldn't possibly compare them to the rest of the guys until at least a complete season of rookie ball, and even then it's tough. Great Falls seems to have a lot of guys that are doing well and Bristol has a few seemingly talented guys judging by numbers and age. We should be seeing this group in rookie ball start to dominate the bottom half of any top 25 list, even if only by default.

[Heads22]

I really agree with you in regards to Sweeney. I'm still waiting for a switch to flip for him.

[dasox24]

Guess I'll take a stab at this. Though, I'm just gonna do 20.

 

20- Sergio Morales

19- Carlos Vasquez

18- John Ely

17- Po-Yu Lin

16- Justin Cassel

15- Jose Martinez

14- Sergio Miranda

13- John Shelby

12- Oneli Perez

11- Luke Harrell

10- Nevin Griffith

9- Kyle McCulloch

8- Lance Broadway

7- Adam Russell

6- Aaron Poreda

5- Chris Carter

4- Ryan Sweeney

3- Fautino De Los Santos

2- Jack Egbert

1- Gio Gonzalez

 

Danny Richar was left out b/c he just got called up, though I know he technically still has prospect status.

Edited July 28, 2007 by dasox24

[fathom]

Only on this site would Egbert be higher than DLS

[Cerbaho-WG]

Only on this site would Egbert be higher than DLS

 

Because we forgot that a 24-year-old being in the top 3 of almost every major pitching category in AA is s*** in comparison to a guy lighting up low-A ball. Egbert has four very solid pitches and knows how to pitch, while DLS has two good pitches and needs to develop a third. Don't get me wrong, DLS obviously has more upside than Egbert, but until DLS starts flashing a changeup with consistency, Egbert and Gio will take over for him.

 

As for my Top 10:

 

1) Gonzalez (by a hair)

2) Egbert

3) DLS

4) Carter

5) Richar

6) Sean Burroughs II

7) Poreda

8) Broadway

9) McCullouch

10) Oneli

[maggsmaggs]

Only on this site would Egbert be higher than DLS

Egbert has done his thing at every level, DLS has pitched 91 innings in an entire minor league career. Egbert does not have a higher celing, but clearly will be a solid pitcher or reliever. DLS could blow out his arm and has spotty control. I think when you count both, they are around equal in terms of prospect status. We really need to see more DLS before we annoint a top 3 prospect, IMO.

 

My top 15

1. Gio

2. Sweeney

3. Richar

4. Egbert

5. DLS

6. Carter

7. Poreda

8. Broadway

9. McCulloch

10. Russell

11. Getz (I agree with Danny's high rating)

12. Harrell (sick numbers when healthy last year)

13. Long

14. Perez

15. Edwards

 

Edited July 28, 2007 by maggsmaggs

[fathom]

Because we forgot that a 24-year-old being in the top 3 of almost every major pitching category in AA is s*** in comparison to a guy lighting up low-A ball. Egbert has four very solid pitches and knows how to pitch, while DLS has two good pitches and needs to develop a third. Don't get me wrong, DLS obviously has more upside than Egbert, but until DLS starts flashing a changeup with consistency, Egbert and Gio will take over for him.

 

As for my Top 10:

 

1) Gonzalez (by a hair)

2) Egbert

3) DLS

4) Carter

5) Richar

6) Sean Burroughs II

7) Poreda

8) Broadway

9) McCullouch

10) Oneli

 

I'm not saying DLS is a better pitcher. But when it comes to prospect rankings, you know the hard throwing guy with the sexy stats is going to be ranked higher. This wasn't a shot at Egbert....rather, I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised by how high DLS is ranked next year.

 

[Chet Lemon]

Egbert and Gio also play on a team with a pathetic offense.

[Gene Honda Civic]

1. Gio

2. DLS

3. Sweeney (still)

4. Carter

5. Egbert

6. Richar

Big drop off to guys like McCulloch, Broadway, Poreda, and Griffin. Plus interesting but injured players like Harrell and Cassel. Add in the disappointing Russell, the low-ceilinged Oneli, the still raw Shelby, and a few rookie leaguers like Martinez, Morales, and Lin to round out the top 20, and you still don't have much.

[Calderon]

...the low-ceilinged Oneli....

Maybe this is a naive question, but how high a ceiling do you expect from a relief pitcher? Furthermore, how much more can Perez do to raise his ceiling, considering he's dominated every level since entering the organization?

 

To me, he seems like a guy that could be helping in Chicago very shortly.

 

[Gene Honda Civic]

Maybe this is a naive question, but how high a ceiling do you expect from a relief pitcher? Furthermore, how much more can Perez do to raise his ceiling, considering he's dominated every level since entering the organization?

 

To me, he seems like a guy that could be helping in Chicago very shortly.

well he's a small righty who gets by on breaking stuff who doesn't top 90MPH.

 

His numbers this season have been good but not otherworldly until July, and only last season was great. I can see a future for him in the big leagues, but not as much more than back of the bullpen filler.

 

Similarly, I see Russell as back of the bullpen material with potential.

[joejoedairy]

How come collaro isnt higher on these lists? His numbers seem good to me outside of the strikeouts.

[Kalapse]

How come collaro isnt higher on these lists? His numbers seem good to me outside of the strikeouts.

He hits for a poor average, he is completely incapable of drawing a walk and he strikes out in about a third of his at bats. He has 46 XBH in 423 ABs in his second year at AA but his OPS is still only .767.

 

Sounds like a non-prospect to me.

 

His minor league numbers remind me a lot of Jose Hernandez's major league numbers only Jose drew more walks and could play passable defense on the left side of the infield. Or how about Juan Uribe if you take out the career year in '04 and add 30-40 strikeouts onto his 162 game average and of course ignore Uribe's defensive prowess at SS.