July 28, 200718 yr Ok, here's FS' Top 25 as of 6/4: The Complete FutureSox Top 25: 25. Dewon Day 24. Robert Valido 23. Francisco Hernandez 22. Justin Cassel 21. Pedro Lopez 20. Brian Omogrosso 19. Chris Getz 18. Jerry Owens 17. Oneli Perez 16. Boone Logan 15. Heath Phillips 14. Lucas Harrell 13. Wes Whisler 12. Charlie Haeger 11. Chris Carter 10. Kyle McCulloch 9. Jack Egbert 8. Adam Russell 7. Nick Masset 6. Aaron Cunningham 5. Lance Broadway 4. Ryan Sweeney 3. Gio Gonzalez 2. Josh Fields 1. John Danks Now....since the draft has occured, I wonder how it looks now? Here's my Top 10: 1. Gio Gonzalez 2. Ryan Sweeney 3. Jack Egbert 4. Fautino DeLosSantos 5. Danny Richar 6. Aaron Poreda 7. Chris Carter 8. Lance Broadway 9. Kyle McCullouch 10. Adam Russell Let me know if I'm off my rocker or if I need any ore Analysis based on current stats, blogs, and various websites.
July 28, 200718 yr top 10 right now for me would be... 1. Ryan Sweeney 2. Gio Gonzalez 3. Faustino De Los Santos 4. Jack Egbert 5. Danny Richar 6. Chris Carter 7. Lance Broadway 8. Adam Russell 9. Kyle McCulloch 10. Aaron Poreda
July 28, 200718 yr eh, my ttop 5 would look like 1. Gio Gonzalez 2. Danny Richar 3. Ryan Sweeney 4. Jack Egbert 5. Fautino De Los Santos With names such as Carter trailing behind. I'd really rather have Sweeney #5, but I just can't do it. Of course, that's also based mainly off of how they are doing right now.
July 28, 200718 yr 1. DLS 2. Egbert 3. Gio 4. Sweeney 5. Carter DLS, if he can remain healthy, will be a major leaguer someday. Egbert should find the rotation at some point and take his place for a while. Gio could be very good, but I just can't help but not like his flameout possibility. The other two are easy to figure out why.
July 28, 200718 yr 1. Gio 2. Sweeney 3. Richar 4. DLS 5. Eggy 6. Carter 7. Broadway 8. McCullouch 9. Russell 10. Poreda
July 28, 200718 yr These are fun. We sure nailed the top two at least, in fact the top 3 looks good to date. I'll make a top 20 or so because I'm bored. Danks, Fields, Masset, Haeger, Logan, and Owens aren't getting counted because of either too much time on the Sox or in the case of Haeger, he is currently on the team. 28. Brandon Allen 27. Micah Schnurstein 26. Fernando Hernandez 25. Heath Phillips 24. Carlos Vasquez 23. John Shelby 22. Francisco Hernandez 21. Justin Cassel 20. Lucas Harrell 19. Brian Omogrosso 18. Clayton Richard 17. Derek Rodriguez 16. Donny Lucy 15. Thomas Collaro 14. Oneli Perez 13. Nevin Griffith (hard to say where to put him, but it's not like we have much left at this point) 12. Dewon Day 11. Chris Getz (man, that was tough. HUGE dropoff after Kyle) 10. Kyle McCulloch 9. Adam Russell 8. Aaron Poreda 7. Lance Broadway 6. Danny Richar 5. Jack Egbert 4. Chris Carter 3. Fautino De Los Santos 2. Ryan Sweeney (as much as I think he's going to be a bust/disappointment, he has been in the Majors and will be again. The other contenders for this spot can't say that.) 1. Gio Gonzalez That was a depressing exercise.
July 28, 200718 yr QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 28, 2007 -> 12:07 AM) John Ely has a higher cieling than Heath Phillips. Yeah, but I ignored rookie ball. I couldn't possibly compare them to the rest of the guys until at least a complete season of rookie ball, and even then it's tough. Great Falls seems to have a lot of guys that are doing well and Bristol has a few seemingly talented guys judging by numbers and age. We should be seeing this group in rookie ball start to dominate the bottom half of any top 25 list, even if only by default.
July 28, 200718 yr I really agree with you in regards to Sweeney. I'm still waiting for a switch to flip for him.
July 28, 200718 yr Guess I'll take a stab at this. Though, I'm just gonna do 20. 20- Sergio Morales 19- Carlos Vasquez 18- John Ely 17- Po-Yu Lin 16- Justin Cassel 15- Jose Martinez 14- Sergio Miranda 13- John Shelby 12- Oneli Perez 11- Luke Harrell 10- Nevin Griffith 9- Kyle McCulloch 8- Lance Broadway 7- Adam Russell 6- Aaron Poreda 5- Chris Carter 4- Ryan Sweeney 3- Fautino De Los Santos 2- Jack Egbert 1- Gio Gonzalez Danny Richar was left out b/c he just got called up, though I know he technically still has prospect status. Edited July 28, 200718 yr by dasox24
July 28, 200718 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 28, 2007 -> 06:07 AM) Only on this site would Egbert be higher than DLS Because we forgot that a 24-year-old being in the top 3 of almost every major pitching category in AA is s*** in comparison to a guy lighting up low-A ball. Egbert has four very solid pitches and knows how to pitch, while DLS has two good pitches and needs to develop a third. Don't get me wrong, DLS obviously has more upside than Egbert, but until DLS starts flashing a changeup with consistency, Egbert and Gio will take over for him. As for my Top 10: 1) Gonzalez (by a hair) 2) Egbert 3) DLS 4) Carter 5) Richar 6) Sean Burroughs II 7) Poreda 8) Broadway 9) McCullouch 10) Oneli
July 28, 200718 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 28, 2007 -> 06:07 AM) Only on this site would Egbert be higher than DLS Egbert has done his thing at every level, DLS has pitched 91 innings in an entire minor league career. Egbert does not have a higher celing, but clearly will be a solid pitcher or reliever. DLS could blow out his arm and has spotty control. I think when you count both, they are around equal in terms of prospect status. We really need to see more DLS before we annoint a top 3 prospect, IMO. My top 15 1. Gio 2. Sweeney 3. Richar 4. Egbert 5. DLS 6. Carter 7. Poreda 8. Broadway 9. McCulloch 10. Russell 11. Getz (I agree with Danny's high rating) 12. Harrell (sick numbers when healthy last year) 13. Long 14. Perez 15. Edwards Edited July 28, 200718 yr by maggsmaggs
July 28, 200718 yr QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 28, 2007 -> 01:06 PM) Because we forgot that a 24-year-old being in the top 3 of almost every major pitching category in AA is s*** in comparison to a guy lighting up low-A ball. Egbert has four very solid pitches and knows how to pitch, while DLS has two good pitches and needs to develop a third. Don't get me wrong, DLS obviously has more upside than Egbert, but until DLS starts flashing a changeup with consistency, Egbert and Gio will take over for him. As for my Top 10: 1) Gonzalez (by a hair) 2) Egbert 3) DLS 4) Carter 5) Richar 6) Sean Burroughs II 7) Poreda 8) Broadway 9) McCullouch 10) Oneli I'm not saying DLS is a better pitcher. But when it comes to prospect rankings, you know the hard throwing guy with the sexy stats is going to be ranked higher. This wasn't a shot at Egbert....rather, I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised by how high DLS is ranked next year.
July 29, 200718 yr 1. Gio 2. DLS 3. Sweeney (still) 4. Carter 5. Egbert 6. Richar Big drop off to guys like McCulloch, Broadway, Poreda, and Griffin. Plus interesting but injured players like Harrell and Cassel. Add in the disappointing Russell, the low-ceilinged Oneli, the still raw Shelby, and a few rookie leaguers like Martinez, Morales, and Lin to round out the top 20, and you still don't have much.
July 29, 200718 yr QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 29, 2007 -> 04:14 PM) ...the low-ceilinged Oneli.... Maybe this is a naive question, but how high a ceiling do you expect from a relief pitcher? Furthermore, how much more can Perez do to raise his ceiling, considering he's dominated every level since entering the organization? To me, he seems like a guy that could be helping in Chicago very shortly.
July 30, 200718 yr QUOTE(Calderon @ Jul 29, 2007 -> 05:26 PM) Maybe this is a naive question, but how high a ceiling do you expect from a relief pitcher? Furthermore, how much more can Perez do to raise his ceiling, considering he's dominated every level since entering the organization? To me, he seems like a guy that could be helping in Chicago very shortly. well he's a small righty who gets by on breaking stuff who doesn't top 90MPH. His numbers this season have been good but not otherworldly until July, and only last season was great. I can see a future for him in the big leagues, but not as much more than back of the bullpen filler. Similarly, I see Russell as back of the bullpen material with potential.
July 30, 200718 yr How come collaro isnt higher on these lists? His numbers seem good to me outside of the strikeouts.
July 30, 200718 yr QUOTE(joejoedairy @ Jul 29, 2007 -> 08:31 PM) How come collaro isnt higher on these lists? His numbers seem good to me outside of the strikeouts. He hits for a poor average, he is completely incapable of drawing a walk and he strikes out in about a third of his at bats. He has 46 XBH in 423 ABs in his second year at AA but his OPS is still only .767. Sounds like a non-prospect to me. His minor league numbers remind me a lot of Jose Hernandez's major league numbers only Jose drew more walks and could play passable defense on the left side of the infield. Or how about Juan Uribe if you take out the career year in '04 and add 30-40 strikeouts onto his 162 game average and of course ignore Uribe's defensive prowess at SS.
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