Someone's gotta go. Keeping everyone just wouldn't make sense.

I have to say Ozzie. He's lost the players, his managerial decisions blow up in his face and the combination of his mouth and his losing ways have just made me sick.

Its not just this team, its the whole organization.

 

There has been regular decline during Williams watch

I say KW because he comes off as smug and elitist and look at the crap he put out on the field with such a high payroll.

Its not just this team, its the whole organization.

 

There has been regular decline during Williams watch

 

"Regular Decline" would insinuate that since KW took over, the White Sox have seen their records go down each year.

 

As bad as this year has been...thats just not a true statement.

Edited August 28, 200718 yr by RibbieRubarb

Walker or kenny for sure. I don't blame cooper for the s***ty bullpen kenny assembled. I do blame walker for not keeping these obviously talent batters hitting.

Fired the most?

 

Walker or kenny for sure. I don't blame cooper for the s***ty bullpen kenny assembled. I do blame walker for not keeping these obviously talent batters hitting.

Sums it up for me.

have to say KW. The way he put together this team is risky. Relying on guys who are coming off of injuries e.g Erstad, or have not proven themselves to be succesful major leaguers e.g. Floyd, Masset, Sisco, Aardsma, is a risky proposition. Sometimes taking chances can be extremely beneficial, but when your payroll is @100 mil, you should not be in last place with the majority of your offseason acquistions either being in AAA or having been demoted there. Aging and injury prone with a farm system pretty barren of position prospects, this organization needs some new life breathed into it.

Someone's gotta go. Keeping everyone just wouldn't make sense.

 

Let's just fire everybody, including the players, groundscrew, and hot dog vendors. That would make even more sense.

 

I have to say no one.

 

2 years of 90+ wins, 1 year of bad.

 

Ill wait and see till next year, not exactly sure what other GM's would have done better or worse, considering the Sox have had a few GM's in my life time and most did not put together the winning teams that KW has.

Gene Lamont got fired and he has a better winning pct. managing the White Sox than Ozzie Guillen. Jerry Manuel was fired after having a team win 86 games. I love how some people claim 2006 was a success because the team won 90 games, yet bash Billy Beane because the A's have won that many several times but have done nothing in the playoffs. Personally, I don't think Ozzie or Kenny ever will be fired, but if they bring back basically the same team with small tweaks, or bring back a team in 2008 that is the same or worse, they both should be gone. Roland Hemond lost his job after a "decent" 1985. With 7 or 8 guys on the roster making $10 million or more, battling it out with KC for the cellar isn't going to do White Sox partner's pockets any good.

Kenny Williams, and it's not even close. He took over in 2001, and since then we have 6 Octobers out of 7 at home, and currently reside with a poor farm system and even worse major league team. This is such an easy question to answer it's not even funny.

Edited August 28, 200718 yr by whitesoxfan101

I have to say Ozzie. He's lost the players, his managerial decisions blow up in his face and the combination of his mouth and his losing ways have just made me sick.

his losing ways? Are you demented?

Given KW is one of the more successful GM's in the game, he is the one I'd say definitely not. The others I could see arguments for.

 

The only one I'd be in favor of showing the door is Walker, at this point.

 

If the team is horrible again next year, though, I think more heads will roll.

 

This season was bad, but I think you have to give them more time. Chicago fans always wanna dump their coach and manager right away.

 

I would like to see some changes with the players. More speed and a better bullpen.

2 years of 90+ wins, 1 year of bad.

Last year's 90 win team was on pace to win more games than the 2005 team and then they absolutely sucked for the last 2 months of the year. And that crappy play has continued ever since. I don't count last year as a good year. It was a great first 2/3 of a season followed by a putrid final 1/3 of a season.

I have to say Ozzie. He's lost the players, his managerial decisions blow up in his face and the combination of his mouth and his losing ways have just made me sick.

 

 

 

 

Well then you probably will never be happy as a Sox fan.

 

Can you count how many times they have won 90 games back to back?

 

Because if this isnt good enough, I dont know what is.

I'd be willing to bet that those who want Ozzie and Kenny fired are likely to be the younger posters, and those willing to be more patient are the older ones. I guess I'm just old.

 

The 2000-present period has been better than any stretch in my lifetime, and for that matter, in the past century for the White Sox. That doesn't mean I like losing - it means I am not about to endorse firing people who have proven so successful, based on one lousy season.

 

Walker. Plain and simple. I doubt anybody will be fired though.

I must say it is amazing Cooper gets no blame. I understand most of the pitchers suck, but so does most of the line-up.

I'd be willing to bet that those who want Ozzie and Kenny fired are likely to be the younger posters, and those willing to be more patient are the older ones. I guess I'm just old.

 

The 2000-present period has been better than any stretch in my lifetime, and for that matter, in the past century for the White Sox. That doesn't mean I like losing - it means I am not about to endorse firing people who have proven so successful, based on one lousy season.

 

Well-said

 

I must say it is amazing Cooper gets no blame. I understand most of the pitchers suck, but so does most of the line-up.

There is a difference between derserving some blame and being fired. All four people listed deserve some of the responsibility for this season (as well as for 2005, and every other season they have been a part of).

 

I dont think anyone deserves to be fired unless we get a repeat of this season next year, but, if we are gonna fire anyone than my choice is Walker.