beautox Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 With JD being inked and fields being put in LF, along with this organizations view that it can and will contend next year that all but means we're going to sign or trade for a CF. So what becomes of Sweeney? hes still young but there just doesn't appear to be an opening in this organization for him sans CF and it looks as though that window is closing fast. I see him being shipped off to the marlins for Taylor Tankersley or Kevin Gregg seeing how KW loves high power relief arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Right now I'm leaning towards Jeremy Reed v2.0, which is really not a good outcome for Sweeney. This was really a make or break season for him in terms of his standing as a prospect. He finished last season well, and many had high hopes for him coming into this season, it just hasn't happened for him from a power standpoint. It's quite ironic that many people at the time thought we did really well getting Anderson and Sweeney as our top 2 draft picks in that 03 or 04 draft, and right now it doesn't look like either will become regular major league outfielders, at least for the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 RF in 2009 (he will tear it up next season at Chatlotte).... Do not doubt the awesome-ness of Sweeney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 It's way too early to write off Sweeney at 22. It was a down year and all, but Delmon Young wasn't meeting anyone's expectations, either. I'd rather wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 06:59 AM) It's way too early to write off Sweeney at 22. It was a down year and all, but Delmon Young wasn't meeting anyone's expectations, either. I'd rather wait and see. Sweeney =/ Young Not sure I'd write him up or give up on him, but I expect him to be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 05:59 AM) It's way too early to write off Sweeney at 22. It was a down year and all, but Delmon Young wasn't meeting anyone's expectations, either. I'd rather wait and see. Exactly. He's still only 22 years old. How many 22 year olds make impacts or even start in the majors? He's been rushed at every level and hasnt been completely healthy all year. He was hitting near .300 for a good part of the season. He had a disappointing season and next year is crucial for him, but its definitely too early to give up on him or trade him while his value is low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 There is a reason that the NBA drafts a handful of players and MLB drafts every healthy male from 18-22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Sweeney's career at this point, if he stays with the Sox, hinges on two things: 1. What kind of year he has at Charlotte in 2008 2. What happens with the LF situation - Fields/Crede/Owens, etc. Those will dictate where he will be with the Sox in 2008 and 2009. IF he isn't traded before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'll be shocked if he's in the organization after this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 07:49 AM) Sweeney =/ Young Not sure I'd write him up or give up on him, but I expect him to be traded. QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 09:52 AM) I'll be shocked if he's in the organization after this offseason. agreed on both counts, and it's time to move him too. A 3rd mediocre season in AAA would bring an end to his time as being a prospect. He needs to get stronger and quicker on the inside pitch; if he doesn't, he might be a 4th outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 He's 22... there's plenty of time for him to become a productive player. How many years did Crede hit .230-.260 and the sox stuck with him? Sweeney's had 80 sporadic at bats in the majors... writing him off would be ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 08:55 AM) There is a reason that the NBA drafts a handful of players and MLB drafts every healthy male from 18-22. Because the NBA is like prison and the MLB is like the Army? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 you cant be a .270 hitter with 10 HR in this league unless you walk alot and steal alot of bases.....sweeney does neither particularly well....he needs to develop power....what even more of a concern when it comes to sweeney is his lack of 2bs, not just HRs....for a guy that is supposed to have a "line drive swing" he should be finding gaps more than he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 10:08 AM) He's 22... there's plenty of time for him to become a productive player. How many years did Crede hit .230-.260 and the sox stuck with him? Sweeney's had 80 sporadic at bats in the majors... writing him off would be ridiculous. Joe Crede atleast showed some potential in AAA, putting up a .930 OPS his second year in AAA. Past rookie ball, Ryan Sweeney has cracked an .800 OPS one time, and that was last year at Charlotte. Even the infamous Brian Anderson even put up a .830 OPS at AAA before proving he absolutely blew chunks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 09:14 AM) Joe Crede atleast showed some potential in AAA, putting up a .930 OPS his second year in AAA. Past rookie ball, Ryan Sweeney has cracked an .800 OPS one time, and that was last year at Charlotte. Even the infamous Brian Anderson even put up a .830 OPS at AAA before proving he absolutely blew chunks. extremely good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 10:10 AM) Because the NBA is like prison and the MLB is like the Army? Don't ask, don't tell sweetie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 08:14 AM) Joe Crede atleast showed some potential in AAA, putting up a .930 OPS his second year in AAA. Past rookie ball, Ryan Sweeney has cracked an .800 OPS one time, and that was last year at Charlotte. Even the infamous Brian Anderson even put up a .830 OPS at AAA before proving he absolutely blew chunks. It might also be worth noting that Anderson put up those AAA numbers when he was 23. Sweeney was 21 last year when he cracked that .800 OPS. And unfortunately, this season has been one of those nasty ones for him, where he's both struggled with a lot of injuries and was promoted early due to injuries above him, thus robbing him of consistent playing time to some extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 If he brings something good in trade that is fine, but, I think at this point his value is pretty low. I'd suggest its better to keep him, send him to AFL, and then see what he can do in Charlotte in 2008. I think there is a better chance that he does well there next year, then there is that he'll bring much of anything in trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I think there is a decent chance the Sox could stick with Brian Anderson as a back-up outfielder (capable of playing all 3 OF positions). That will become more likely if he makes some strides in winterball. Sweeney on the other hand will probably be dealt for another prospect the Sox like that may fill a more immediate hole (Sweeney still has trade value, but I'd say he's considered a B-/C+ prospect at this point and most of that is still based on a lot of "Old" hype). In fact there is a better chance that both are gone next year than both being in the org, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 As stated before, other prospects should have got the extended look that Owens got. Nothing should be determined on both Sweeney and Anderson. Owens we know is a 4 or 5 OF now. Playing Erstad was a waste of time after August 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I disagree. He can't have much value at this point and I think the organization has too much of a soft spot for him to trade him for scraps. I don't see him going anywhere until he runs out of options or becomes a minor league free agent. In a couple years if he hasn't put it together we should use him as a fourth or fifth outfielder. QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 10:14 AM) Joe Crede atleast showed some potential in AAA, putting up a .930 OPS his second year in AAA. Past rookie ball, Ryan Sweeney has cracked an .800 OPS one time, and that was last year at Charlotte. Even the infamous Brian Anderson even put up a .830 OPS at AAA before proving he absolutely blew chunks. There's no need to denigrate Anderson's full season in Charlotte just because he's struggled ever since. Every indication was that he would be a fixture in CF at that point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 08:49 AM) Sweeney =/ Young Not sure I'd write him up or give up on him, but I expect him to be traded. First of all, what's with this "=/" you're sporting everywhere? "Not equal to" is written "!=" or "~=". Just saying. Second, I'm not saying he's Young's equal. But they are roughly the same age and had similar age 21 years in the same league. I'd rather take a chance on the potential than swap him for the next Mackowiak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 We traded away our CF'er of the future with Chris Young going to Arizona. It doesn't seem any of the other so called prospects are ready and not sure if they ever will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 ryan Sweeney ain't gonna make it. Let's remember that he was playing in a hitter's park in a bad, bad league. The comparisons to Crede are silly. Crede was an MVP in both A and AA ball. Sweeney has never been close to that. He's not even an all-star in the International League. He hasn't even shown gap power. He's got a pretty swing, that's too long. He can throw a little bit. But he looks a bit of plodder in the outfield (roll video of that play from Anaheim early in the season). He's Ben Grieve Lite -- and that's not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 02:22 PM) First of all, what's with this "=/" you're sporting everywhere? "Not equal to" is written "!=" or "~=". Just saying. Second, I'm not saying he's Young's equal. But they are roughly the same age and had similar age 21 years in the same league. I'd rather take a chance on the potential than swap him for the next Mackowiak. I'm sorry I don't know the proper protocol for "not equal to," typed. The fact is, though, that Sweeney has never been projected to be half the player Young is and so saying, "Young didn't meet expectations right away" is true enough but not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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