kapkomet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 NOT discussion programming packages, do you all out there see a big PERFORMANCE difference between dish network and direct tv? This is a debate I'm having on another forum, but this one provides better feedback for stuff like this. I need some pretty quick answers because if I'm switching, I need to in the next 24-48 hours. Specific answers as to why you think what you do would be appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Ok. Mine is from experience, although limited. I had Directv at my first 3 places in chicago until I bought my condo. I LOVED it, and it only went out ONCE and that was a nasty snow storm in 2004 when I had to just dust the dish off a bit. I was recently in phoenix where a house I rented had Dish Network and this thing was constantly out, flicking, pixelating and everything else that pisses you off about the dish. From that experience alone I think it sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Holy sh*t, check out the timing of this thread. I just switched from Direct TV to Dish Network on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Kap, there are too many variables, drive around your neighborhood and look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 it's about 50-50. Most people say that DirecTV is better then Dish, but I've had Dish - when it does rain hard, it does go out. Other then that, I haven't had an issue. If it's not broke, I won't fix it, but I wanted to know what people's experiences were. I like Dish, but if DirecTV is better, I'll go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 DirecTV > Cable, Dish Network, anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I know the thread on the other board has to stem from carrying the Big Ten Network. Hopefully, it's on some kind of cable package, for where ever I end up after this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 03:11 PM) DirecTV > Cable, Dish Network, anything else Maybe from programming, but Kap was speaking technology, I'd place it Cable > Direct > Dish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 03:11 PM) DirecTV > Cable, Dish Network, anything else You obviously havent discovered OnDemand, the greatest thing since velcro. Comcast blows everything else out of the water IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 I worked for Comcast - I did like their product (but I didn't live in a Comcast area, blah). The market here is now Time Warner... the product itself is good - especially as they upgrade one of the oldest cable plants in the United States, but the customer service is s***, they are arrogant screwtards, and their ondemand can't touch Comcast's. And Greasy, no programming issues, just purely technology/image/even HD (I'm probably going to get an HDTV in a month or two). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 03:44 PM) I worked for Comcast - I did like their product (but I didn't live in a Comcast area, blah). The market here is now Time Warner... the product itself is good - especially as they upgrade one of the oldest cable plants in the United States, but the customer service is s***, they are arrogant screwtards, and their ondemand can't touch Comcast's. And Greasy, no programming issues, just purely technology/image/even HD (I'm probably going to get an HDTV in a month or two). I went with cable at my new place for a few reasons 1. I was most familar with Time Warner and Road Runner so no learning curve. 2. Road Runner vs. DSL. Speed/cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 We've got DirecTV and love it. We've had it for a few years and it's gone out MAYBE 5 times, only once for more than about an hour. The only thing is I'd check the pricing if you're going to switch to HD. Right now we have two DVR's, 4 lines, 3 sets and the Sports Package and it's about the same as our Comcast was without the DVR's or the sports thing. However, I think it goes up a fair amount with HD. Also, you need a different dish/receiver for HD, so if that's the case you might want to buy the TV now or wait until you get it to switch (which doesn't sound like an option). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 09:13 PM) We've got DirecTV and love it. We've had it for a few years and it's gone out MAYBE 5 times, only once for more than about an hour. The only thing is I'd check the pricing if you're going to switch to HD. Right now we have two DVR's, 4 lines, 3 sets and the Sports Package and it's about the same as our Comcast was without the DVR's or the sports thing. However, I think it goes up a fair amount with HD. Also, you need a different dish/receiver for HD, so if that's the case you might want to buy the TV now or wait until you get it to switch (which doesn't sound like an option). The only thing is I have Center Ice, and I don't want to pay for the whole damn package twice if I switch to DirecTV. Cable for me is not an option, which is a messed up conversation in and of itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I have DirecTV here, have had it in CA for 4 years, and probably have lost signal like 4-5 times in the heaviest of storms, and even then I'd say that the situation has improved a fair amount in the last year or two. Can't even remember the last time it went out. You should def. investigate other sources on the HD issue though if that is important to you. Both of the satellite providers have had a rep as being a step behind in that regard over the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 03:41 PM) You obviously havent discovered OnDemand, the greatest thing since velcro. Comcast blows everything else out of the water IMO. Wait till DOCIS 3.0 is adopted across the cable providers in the next few years, think of broadband internet connection above 100mbs. The comcast tests were at 160mbs. At that point you can do IP TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 09:56 PM) Wait till DOCIS 3.0 is adopted across the cable providers in the next few years, think of broadband internet connection above 100mbs. The comcast tests were at 160mbs. At that point you can do IP TV. I know they were starting to look at that at TWC. The thing is, though, most systems cannot handle that without serious upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 05:12 PM) I know they were starting to look at that at TWC. The thing is, though, most systems cannot handle that without serious upgrades. Comcast has been running a lot of fiber from a transport standpoint they should be okay. From a peering standpoint it could be hell. Its funny though, at the same time Comcast is touting their DOCIS 3.0 equipment they are suspending users for a year for using too much bandwidth. Hopefully they dont have a magic invisible cap that only get invoked when you use the equipment to its fullest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 12:23 PM) NOT discussion programming packages, do you all out there see a big PERFORMANCE difference between dish network and direct tv? This is a debate I'm having on another forum, but this one provides better feedback for stuff like this. I need some pretty quick answers because if I'm switching, I need to in the next 24-48 hours. Specific answers as to why you think what you do would be appreciated! I'm pretty up on this issue becuase I was about to switch to sattellite. I think the biggest difference is that Dish's equipment is lightyears better than direct tv's. Dish has better DVR's & HD receivers and you also don't have to purchase all the equipment like you would with Direct (even Direct's lease costs are ridiculous as for any of the newer tech boxes you have to drop massive amounts while Dish will throw it in for new customers). Customer Service wise I've heard DirectTV is better and right now Dish has more HD channels, but that will change by months end as DirectTv's new HD sattellite is up and they are already testing all the new channels they are going to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 01:11 PM) DirecTV > Cable, Dish Network, anything else Maybe programming wise, but it is a lot more expensive. Plus on Cable I get a superior HD quality (Dish/DirectTV both have far less HDTV quality as they have to compress there HD feeds far more than what good cable companies do) & on Demand. Oh and I get the latest and greatest DVR's and boxes without having to drop 200 bucks on just one box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 2, 2007 -> 11:33 AM) Maybe programming wise, but it is a lot more expensive. Plus on Cable I get a superior HD quality (Dish/DirectTV both have far less HDTV quality as they have to compress there HD feeds far more than what good cable companies do) & on Demand. Oh and I get the latest and greatest DVR's and boxes without having to drop 200 bucks on just one box. Do you have COX cable down there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 02:56 PM) Wait till DOCIS 3.0 is adopted across the cable providers in the next few years, think of broadband internet connection above 100mbs. The comcast tests were at 160mbs. At that point you can do IP TV. Verizon is laying out its Fios across the US and that is supposed to be stellar. You also have a lot of cable companies that are now to the point where some areas are pretty much running straight off fiber optics and in those instances you will have limitless possibilities (although they currently are still behind Direct/Dish in terms of how many HD channels they carry, however the quality of HD channels on a good cable outlet is RIDICULOUSLY better than that of sattellite). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 2, 2007 -> 09:34 AM) Do you have COX cable down there? Ya. They are tremendous. I'm lucky though because Orange County is one of the area's where Cox rolls out stuff first (so we are always the first to get there newest technology/programming). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 2, 2007 -> 04:37 PM) Ya. They are tremendous. I'm lucky though because Orange County is one of the area's where Cox rolls out stuff first (so we are always the first to get there newest technology/programming). You are very lucky that you're not in a Crime Warner area, especially with the transition from Adelphia/Comcast in LA. It was horrible and a lot of people got fired. TWC's management group is a bunch of incompetent idiots. Oh wait, I better not say that, someone might read this. . . . oh well, too late! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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