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FOr you edwards people... strong showing in OK and TN.

COuld be enough to throw so added support Obama's way ;)

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QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 07:39 PM)
CT and NJ are Clinton firewall. A loss for Clinton here is a big chink in the armor.

 

That she didn't win those by large margins can't be a good feeling for them.

CT (15% Reporting) Obama 50% Clinton 48%

NJ (1% Reporting) Clinton 58% Obama 37% Edwards 4%

MA (4% Reporting) Clinton 52% Obama 46%

Edited by Athomeboy_2000

Richardson to be on MSNBC. He's grown facial hair!

Chuck Todd on MSNBC is saying that in states where Hillary is "wining big" she may only have a handful more delegates than Obama. Obama may LOSE tonight, but stil have more delegates by the end of the night. HOW WIERD!

How much of a surprise is Obama winning CT so far? How many delegates in that state?

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 07:49 PM)
How much of a surprise is Obama winning CT so far? How many delegates in that state?

Kind of a suprise, but he has been surgin there recently. CT is 48 pledged.

Hillary wins American Samoa.

So that gives her 2 delegates to Obama's 1?

Hillary wins MA. Not a huge suprise. But Obama kept it close. Delegates will prbably split close to 50-50

Obama has no chance....Clinton will win this, yikes

Obama BIG in Kansas...

KS (10% Reporting) Obama 73% Clinton 27%

I'm seeing the name "Billary" in several threads here. Is this a Soxtalk original, or it borrowed? Either way, I love it.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 06:05 PM)
Obama has no chance....Clinton will win this, yikes

Where exactly are you getting that from? So far I'd say he's overperforming what would have been expected.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 08:05 PM)
Obama BIG in Kansas...

KS (10% Reporting) Obama 73% Clinton 27%

 

 

obama's mom is from Kansas.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 08:06 PM)
Where exactly are you getting that from? So far I'd say he's overperforming what would have been expected.

Delegate wise... it's a near deadlock

MSNBC:

Obama pulling 44% of white vote so far. That is HUGE.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 08:08 PM)
MSNBC:

Obama pulling 44% of white vote so far. That is HUGE.

 

 

but losing almost all states. Mass, NY are big losses.

Clinton will win California.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 08:09 PM)
but losing almost all states. Mass, NY are big losses.

Clinton will win California.

He wasn't even expecting to win NY. What are you talking about big loss?

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 08:09 PM)
but losing almost all states. Mass, NY are big losses.

Clinton will win California.

Mass and NY were expected.

CA will be VERY interesting.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 08:09 PM)
but losing almost all states. Mass, NY are big losses.

Clinton will win California.

 

But you have to remember that delegates are awarded proportionally, not winner take all like in a general election. And we knew Obama would lose New York.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 06:09 PM)
but losing almost all states. Mass, NY are big losses.

Clinton will win California.

NY is a big loss in terms of delegates, yes, because Clinton should score a large win there. But MA was expected as a loss, and will probably come out close in terms of delegates if the exit polls are believable.

 

On the other hand, Obama already has big wins in Illinois and GA, which will close the delegate gap somewhat.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 08:12 PM)
Ok guys, so what happens after tonight? Doesn't each canidate have to get to like 2000 dels to get a nomination? Will either one of them get that after tonight?

 

No

Let me try and clear this up a bit. Obama was not expected to win a ton of states today. GA, AL, IL were expected wins. Beynd that, anyting is gravy. The goal was simply to keep the delegates close. The Obama campaign feels if they can keep it close after today (+ or - 50 delegates), Obama can move on to the individual states and campaign instead of trying to fight in 21 states against the CLinton name. He's much better when he can concentrate on a single state.

I think by the end of the of the Tuesday results rolling in, Obama will be down 30-40 delegates. VERY close.

Edited by Athomeboy_2000

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 06:12 PM)
Ok guys, so what happens after tonight? Doesn't each canidate have to get to like 2000 dels to get a nomination? Will either one of them get that after tonight?

Neither side will be even close. And because most of the delegates are apportioned at the district level, we won't know a lot of the exact delegate counts until tomorrow. It's likely that each one will be somewhere around 900 tonight. Unless Obama wins more delegates, Hillary will have a lead because of her lead in Superdelegates, but it already seems like the "Tonight is big for Obama" mo might be forming, because demographically Super Tuesday was his weakness, and if he's pulling 44% of the white vote, that's enough to make it closer than it was supposed to be. From here, the campaign moves on to other states that are more demographically friendly to Obama (younger, more African Americans, etc.).

 

It's possible that we won't have a legit winner unto April. There's more of these in upcoming weeks in Feb, then there's about a month long lull in March before a last gasp in PA. Pennsylvania could well wind up looking like a 2nd Iowa.

 

It's also possible that superdelegates could decide this mess one way or another.

What are the big states that are coming up next week that Obama can use to boost his advantage?

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