I've contended that his glove work and approach in CF last season, as the season went on, started to approach average. His arm is the issue.

 

Heh, that was still such a s***ty throw to second.

jesus, owens has a great arm, 1-hopper from shallow CF to 2nd.

He was so close to 2b and still had to one bounce it to him...

I've contended that his glove work and approach in CF last season, as the season went on, started to approach average. His arm is the issue.

there were reports last year that when he was in AA he was a below average CF and had to play LF...but even with his blunder in the first i actually think hes a very serviceable CF....not as good as BA, but certainly not as bad as rob mackowiak or carl everett

in 100 games last year he walked 1 more time than crede has in any full year of credes career

He also struck out 44 more times than Crede's career high in k's.

there were reports last year that when he was in AA he was a below average CF and had to play LF...but even with his blunder in the first i actually think hes a very serviceable CF....not as good as BA, but certainly not as bad as rob mackowiak or carl everett

 

Yeah the Met exploited his defense.

N yet, people here still got on him for his K rate.

Yes, because his OBP was still only .308

Heh, that was still such a s***ty throw to second.

That play was really a perfect picture - Owens could be a pretty decent CF, except for the arm.

 

He also struck out 44 more times than Crede's career high in k's.

yeah....explain why thats bad

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yeah....explain why thats bad

Because strikeouts don't move runners. Strikeouts don't make fielders field the ball and cause errors.

Quentin has been the forgotten man this spring.

Lots of position changes. Ramirez at short - I haven't gotten to see him play there much.

 

Uh-oh...you know what happened the last time a catcher played 1B. Hang on to that shoulder Phillips.

Hey, nice play Josh!

 

Uh-oh...you know what happened the last time a catcher played 1B. Hang on to that shoulder Phillips.

They've had him over there a few times. Phillips is getting a lot of playing time.

 

Because strikeouts don't move runners. Strikeouts don't make fielders field the ball and cause errors.

i just have a difference of opinion than i guess.....over the course of the season.....in the 50 times a guy like crede puts the ball in play for outs more than fields roughly 2 will cause errors (assuming .960 flding %)...the moving runners thing...yeah how many times over the course of the season will crede get the job done when fields wont? 5? besides the stats we are looking at dont adequately even reflect that because we dont know how each batter fared in those specific situations...also you gotta factor in the extra Gidps too...

 

its my opinion that the 30 extra walks are quite a bit more valuable than those few extra times the opposition makes an error or the guy is moved over

 

 

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Floyd.

 

6 IP 6 H 2 R 2 ER 0 BB 4 SO

 

Not too shabby.

Hey, nice play Josh!

He's not awful defensively. He makes some nice plays. He is prone to blow easy ones.

Quentin has been the forgotten man this spring.

Well, to be fair, he's still considered less than healthy and he's only hitting .227. He needs time to get back healthy.

Quentin has been the forgotten man this spring.

Yeah, which I don't get, if he's supposedly healthy. Either he really isn't yet, or they are not making a good decision there, in my opinion.

 

Yes, because his OBP was still only .308

 

Ha and Crede's career is an awesome .304 but do go on.

He's definitely keeping them in the game

 

over the course of the season.....in the 50 times a guy like crede puts the ball in play for outs more than fields roughly 2 will cause errors (assuming .960 flding %)...the moving runners thing...yeah how many times over the course of the season will crede get the job done when fields wont? 5? besides the stats we are looking at dont adequately even reflect that because we dont know how each batter fared in those specific situations...

 

its my opinion that the 30 extra walks are quite a bit more valuable than those few extra times the opposition makes an error or the guy is moved over

Fields OBP was .308 last year. Crede's career is .305. I think the 100 fewer strikeouts Crede would provide would more than make up for that .003 loss of OBP.

Gavin as our 5th starter is going to be a huge mistake. He stunk it up in Philly (I've seen about 95% of his starts/appearances with Philly) and still hasn't even improved from that.

 

I hope our 5th starter isn't on the team yet because if so, it's going to be a long season every 5th day.

Pretty good outing from him today