To me, all signs point to yes.

 

1) Richar's MLB on base pct has been higher than Uribe's was in both 2006 and 07. As soon as Richar's healthy, that spot is his. Only way that's not true is if Alexei is Soriano right out of the gate or something.

 

2) He's absolutely the kind of guy who could have another strong month at the plate, be dealt, and the fans wouldnt miss him at all. Would blame the org at all. Reason being, of course, that we've seen this before from him.

To me, all signs point to yes.

 

1) Richar's MLB on base pct has been higher than Uribe's was in both 2006 and 07. As soon as Richar's healthy, that spot is his. Only way that's not true is if Alexei is Soriano right out of the gate or something.

 

2) He's absolutely the kind of guy who could have another strong month at the plate, be dealt, and the fans wouldnt miss him at all. Would blame the org at all. Reason being, of course, that we've seen this before from him.

Why?

 

They put him on waivers and someone bit. What more did they want? Apparently someone to eat more of the contract?

 

You don't showcase a guy that's played 4 full seasons. You showcase prospects that haven't gotten an extended look, or who are blocked because of a veteran.

 

I think they're starting him because they're unsure of Ramirez's defense at 2b.

Trades rarely happen during the first few months of the season.

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Trades rarely happen during the first few months of the season.

But they do happen near the end of Spring Training semi-regularly.

 

I'm just wondering what type of firesale will happen this year?

I wish it was true, but we all know Uribe is our starting second basemen for the long hall. Only chance he's gone is if we're out of it by July and he's batting a very un-Uribe like average or sports an increased OBP.

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I wish it was true, but we all know Uribe is our starting second basemen for the long hall. Only chance he's gone is if we're out of it by July and he's batting a very un-Uribe like average or sports an increased OBP.

There are a few days left for something to happen.

I'm just wondering what type of firesale will happen this year?

Past their prime veterans for A level prospects.

I wish it was true, but we all know Uribe is our starting second basemen for the long hall. Only chance he's gone is if we're out of it by July and he's batting a very un-Uribe like average or sports an increased OBP.

 

Richar is younger, under contract for awhile, and has already had a higher OBP than either of Uribe's last two years. Why are we to believe he wont take the starting 2b job when he's back?

Richar is younger, under contract for awhile, and has already had a higher OBP than either of Uribe's last two years. Why are we to believe he wont take the starting 2b job when he's back?

Because it's Ozzie and Kenny we're talking about.

Because it's Ozzie and Kenny we're talking about.

 

 

I suppose I walked right into that one. But really I dont at all see Uribe being a personal favorite of either. Richar will get every opportunity when healthy. Unless Uribe's unbelievable coming out, and even then Richar will get a chance eventually unless we're winning.

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The only reason that Uribe is the starting 2B is because the org. dosen't want to rush Ramirez by throwing him into a starting job right out of the gate.

I suppose I walked right into that one. But really I dont at all see Uribe being a personal favorite of either. Richar will get every opportunity when healthy. Unless Uribe's unbelievable coming out, and even then Richar will get a chance eventually unless we're winning.

I want to believe that, but I just can't. I firmly believe Ozzie is one of the most stubborn managers in all of baseball right now. This is the same guy who used Mackowiak in CF, that played Gonzalez, that played Widger way too long, that played Cintron out of position during 2006, that caused a mess of a situation with the bean ball, and all those other things with mismanaging the bullpen last year and the year before.

 

I just don't see anything that says Richar will get his spot if he gets healthy or Uribe continues his regular-seson suckfest.

 

Please, Ozzie, prove me wrong.

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I just don't see anything that says Richar will get his spot if he gets healthy or Uribe continues his regular-seson suckfest.

 

So if Richar were a-ok this spring, in all ways, you dont think he wouldve been front-runner?

 

 

I'm as excited about Alexei as anyone, but if he hasnt played a lot of 2b in Cuba, there's no way he can be rushed into a MLB starting job. I mean, there are real and obvious reasons why Uribe is starter...by default. It's not some conspiracy to get him on the field.

 

So if Richar were a-ok this spring, in all ways, you dont think he wouldve been front-runner?

No, I think Richar would have been the front-runner. I'm just saying once Ozzie gets in a certain mind-state, he doesn't change it. If hes going to go with Uribe, he's going to stick with Uribe. Just like he stuck with Mack in CF, Widger at C, etc. etc. etc.

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No, I think Richar would have been the front-runner. I'm just saying once Ozzie gets in a certain mind-state, he doesn't change it. If hes going to go with Uribe, he's going to stick with Uribe. Just like he stuck with Mack in CF, Widger at C, etc. etc. etc.

 

Gotcha. You have some history to back you up on that, no doubt. I think one thing that unites us as humans, however, is the ability to tire of Juan Uribe at bats. And Ozzie is only human.

Gotcha. You have some history to back you up on that, no doubt. I think one thing that unites us as humans, however, is the ability to tire of Juan Uribe at bats. And Ozzie is only human.

So true.. he is one of the worst hitters I've seen in my few years watching baseball. Although, wasn't Ozzie also one of the worst? I remember reading a list somewhere that had him in the lower 25 of hitters all-time (along with Uribe). Maybe Ozzie feels for him...

So true.. he is one of the worst hitters I've seen in my few years watching baseball. Although, wasn't Ozzie also one of the worst? I remember reading a list somewhere that had him in the lower 25 of hitters all-time (along with Uribe). Maybe Ozzie feels for him...

Eh, they had about the same avg and OBP. Uribe had a lot more power. Interesting to say though, in 7 seasons juan has about 100 more strikeouts than ozzie did in his 16 year career.

Eh, they had about the same avg and OBP. Uribe had a lot more power. Interesting to say though, in 7 seasons juan has about 100 more strikeouts than ozzie did in his 16 year career.

Wow, keep up the good work Juan!

So true.. he is one of the worst hitters I've seen in my few years watching baseball. Although, wasn't Ozzie also one of the worst? I remember reading a list somewhere that had him in the lower 25 of hitters all-time (along with Uribe). Maybe Ozzie feels for him...

 

The thing is, fans are known for getting emotional about the underachieving guy that's been around for awhile, and hating him a little extra for that. And wanting him out sooner in favor of lesser options. I mean, someone else suggested Marcus Giles, and I'll personally take the pop in Uribe's bat over that. He underachieved when we won the title, which leads me to think that we're going to win or not win this year as a result of something having little to do with Uribe in particular.

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The thing is, fans are known for getting emotional about the underachieving guy that's been around for awhile, and hating him a little extra for that. And wanting him out sooner in favor of lesser options. I mean, someone else suggested Marcus Giles, and I'll personally take the pop in Uribe's bat over that. He underachieved when we won the title, which leads me to think that we're going to win or not win this year as a result of something having little to do with Uribe in particular.

That could very well be true. But I'd still rather play the odds and go with the best possible team on paper, and then make adjustments from there. And, in my mind, going with an unproven player (Ramirez, Richar) over someone like Uribe who has consistently done bad is the better choice. Obviously, some here disagree.

I don't think too many people think juan should get more time over richar, he is just injured.

The only reason that Uribe is the starting 2B is because the org. dosen't want to rush Ramirez by throwing him into a starting job right out of the gate.

I'll say it. Uribe is starting because he s Ozzie's guy.

The only reason that Uribe is the starting 2B is because the org. dosen't want to rush Ramirez by throwing him into a starting job right out of the gate.

I think next season A-ram will be starting SS and Richar at 2B

I think next season A-ram will be starting SS and Richar at 2B

I think we're all hoping that.

 

Between Fields, ARam, Richar, Quentin, Anderson, Owens, and Swisher...we could have about 7-8 lineup spots covered by guys who are either making the minimum or who are signed to really cheap contracts because they're still young.

 

Say what you will about the Sox having a barren system...that's an awful lot of payroll flexibility if they all turn out.l