So are you saying that the Democratic Party is going to come out and disavow this campaign, because they don't want to chase anyone out of the party? The party leadership won't say anything, and may even support this movement by Moveon.org, as it puts addiutional pressure on Blue Dogs to toe the party line without the party itself having to exert pressure itself.

Eh it's not really in their lane, not something they can control directly, so probably something they'd want to stay out of. What would you do if you were the head of the DNC (assuming you were a Democrat)? You want the party to be as strong as possible and hold onto as many seats as possible. No reason to openly favor one candidate over another, let it play itself out and support the stronger candidate.

Seriously, I was about an hour from handing in my thesis to the Grad office today when I got an email from Moveon saying in the subject line "Drop whatever you're doing". I suddenly wanted to hurt them.

I'm guessing cknolls and alpha dog missed when Rahm called moveON and the blogs "f'n stupid" for going after blue dogs, in addition to when Hillary came out against moveOn during her campaign.

Actually didn't Obama piss them off too, for the same thing during his campaign? Subtly putting them down, telling them to back off? I mean obviously it didn't have any effect but still.

So are you saying that the Democratic Party is going to come out and disavow this campaign, because they don't want to chase anyone out of the party? The party leadership won't say anything, and may even support this movement by Moveon.org, as it puts addiutional pressure on Blue Dogs to toe the party line without the party itself having to exert pressure itself.

 

When you have a majority, that's when you look for better party members to represent you in elected positions. The rule of electoral politics is pretty simple. Get anyone you can on your side to build a majority coalition. When your coalition is large enough, you consolidate your power by playing to your base to help maintain a base to turn-out. So "Party Name" in Name Only gets a primary challenge. That's fine. Totally acceptable. It's what makes parties stronger.

 

But when you're in the minority, and you run third party candidates against your own party's choice - you just shoot yourselves in the foot. It's not about being a party of inclusion or exclusion, its just about being smart at electoral politics. When you challenge safe seats with less electable candidates, its not a smart move. That's what happened in NY-23.

HAPPY 234th BIRTHDAY USMC

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124226/Republic...-2010-Vote.aspx

 

Dems losing ground. Looks like Obama's move to completely ignore the economy and go 100% for health care is a bust. He's not going to get his plan and it appears it's the only thing he is willing to work on.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124226/Republic...-2010-Vote.aspx

 

Dems losing ground. Looks like Obama's move to completely ignore the economy and go 100% for health care is a bust. He's not going to get his plan and it appears it's the only thing he is willing to work on.

 

 

GOP civil war? Someone tell the independents.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124226/Republic...-2010-Vote.aspx

 

Dems losing ground. Looks like Obama's move to completely ignore the economy and go 100% for health care is a bust. He's not going to get his plan and it appears it's the only thing he is willing to work on.

 

Yeah, we never hear about any stimulus bill funding or anything. It's Hoover all over again.

Yeah, we never hear about any stimulus bill funding or anything. It's Hoover all over again.

 

lol

 

stimulus bill

So if you can't call winning elections a statement on a party anymore, how about polls?

 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124226/Republic...-2010-Vote.aspx

 

And it might be Lou Dobbs, but this is too good to pass up...

 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/200...t-s-post-cambri

 

Some of the mainstream media intelligentsia following the Fort Hood, Texas massacre have cautioned people to reserve judgment about the suspect Major Nidal Malik Hasan and have bypassed many key details in order to live up to what could be construed as a politically correct standard. CNN's Lou Dobbs isn't one of them.

 

Dobbs, on his Nov. 10 radio program, didn't reserve judgment and criticized President Barack Obama for telling people to do so in a speech following the tragic event. Dobbs played a clip from the speech Obama gave last week in which he warned, "We don't know all the answers yet and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts."

 

"Isn't that remarkable, telling the American people not to jump to any conclusions?" Dobbs said. "Not to speculate, not to be curious about what is happening to our men and women, who should be the center of all of our attention and concern and care. Let's compare that statement by our president to what he said at the end of a press conference about health care shortly after the arrest of Professor Henry Louis Gates, his good friend."

Yeah, but imagine the reaction if he'd had to by Major Hasan a beer.

So if you can't call winning elections a statement on a party anymore, how about polls?

 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124226/Republic...-2010-Vote.aspx

 

Sentiment is definitely turning. People wanted change, they got some change, but they also got an economic disaster. That is always the fastest way to change parties in power. Not surprising.

 

Yeah, but imagine the reaction if he'd had to by Major Hasan a beer.

 

 

it's still not too late! buy that muslim freedom fighter an ice cold budwiser, mr.president.

 

Sentiment is definitely turning. People wanted change, they got some change, but they also got an economic disaster. That is always the fastest way to change parties in power. Not surprising.

 

The poll was also taken the days immediately following the two governor's races too - so there might be a bump there. This isn't all too unexpected, to be honest, after four years of winning everything that isn't literally locked down, anyone who seriously expects the Democrats not to lose some seats in the House and Senate is smoking something.

 

War fatigue, and the economic s*** show we've lived for the last two years doesn't help either.

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Anyone here read Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2...l#ixzz0XLCNdUNn

 

Rudy's looking at 2012.

Balta just conceded the White House to Sarah Palin in the Dem thread. I think that has legal precedent right? All hail Sarah Palin!

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The cost of Democrat Mary Landrieu's vote on health care? $100 million dollars. And 2 pages to say what could be said in one word.

 

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/11/t...-care-vote.html

 

On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”

 

The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”

 

I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.

 

In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.)

 

 

The cost of Democrat Mary Landrieu's vote on health care? $100 million dollars. And 2 pages to say what could be said in one word.

 

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/11/t...-care-vote.html

 

Wouldn't Florida also qualify? MS too maybe...

does the whole state have to be declared a disaster area or just part of the state?

 

Could also apply to Iowa and other midwestern states hit with those floods a few years back.

The George W. Bush Presidential Center

Former First Lady Laura Bush today unveiled the design plans for President Bush's presidential center, to be built at Southern Methodist University near Dallas.

 

The center, which will include an archive, a museum and a policy institute, is "both presidential and welcoming," according to a press release, and "includes elements that evoke both Texas and Washington."

 

Visitors will enter the center via "Freedom Hall" and will be able to explore a replica of Bush's Oval Office and a "Texas Rose Garden." The grounds, "a low-maintenance, quintessentially Texas landscape," will serve as a public park, hosting "performances in the outdoor amphitheater and intramural sports on the west lawn."

 

The building, located on more than 23 acres, will incorporate "sustainable design strategies" like solar panels, 20 percent recycled materials and a storm-water management system that will provide half of the property's irrigation. It will also be partially built with local Texan materials, like Texas limestone and pecan wood paneling.

 

It was designed by architect Robert A. M. Stern and landscape architect Matthew Urbanski, who both joined Laura Bush in the unveiling.

 

It's not a library, it's a center. Because as we all know, GWB doesn't own, nor has ever read, a book.

does the whole state have to be declared a disaster area or just part of the state?

 

Could also apply to Iowa and other midwestern states hit with those floods a few years back.

I can also think of at least 1 state that's had some fire issues the last few years.