As long as Alexei gets some votes I think it's a great accomplishment.

It'd be nice if he got some recognition, but it's been amazing to see how far he has come this season.

 

If we signed Orlando Hudson, we could have argubly the best 2B/SS combo in the game from next season. I hope it gets done.

Scary to think that both Alexei and CQ almost started the season in AAA.

Edited September 30, 200817 yr by Athomeboy_2000

Scary to think that both Alexei and CQ almost started the season in AAA.

 

also crazy that Danks and Floyd were HUGE question marks before the season started.

Too bad bureauemployee isn't around.

 

I'd like to hear him explain how his scouting analysis last winter missed on Alexei.

 

Profiles to be nothing more than a utility guy... the next Omar Infante, eh?

 

(good natured ribbing intended)

Edited September 30, 200817 yr by scenario

I think somebody needs to clarify who Roy is. I mean, are we talking Roy Rogers, Roy Orbison, Roy Clark, Roy from Siegfried And Roy, Roy Munson? I mean, there are a lot of "Roy"'s out there for crying out loud.

 

I think somebody needs to clarify who Roy is. I mean, are we talking Roy Rogers, Roy Orbison, Roy Clark, Roy from Siegfried And Roy, Roy Munson? I mean, there are a lot of "Roy"'s out there for crying out loud.

 

Try Roy Hobbs.

Scary to think that both Alexei and CQ almost started the season in AAA.

 

 

It would have been a monumental mistake.

Too bad bureauemployee isn't around.

 

I'd like to hear him explain how his scouting analysis last winter missed on Alexei.

 

Profiles to be nothing more than a utility guy... the next Omar Infante, eh?

 

(good natured ribbing intended)

 

 

Wise words! Scouts can say all they want, but your job on the field has the last word. I remember Ozzie saying at the beginning of ST when he saw Alexei for the first time:

 

"Who is this kid from Ethiopia"

 

I knew Alexei has deceiving power and would surprise many.

 

Alexei may be the best 7th hitter in MLB. His numbers are also better than some 4th, 5th and 6th hitters.

Edited September 30, 200817 yr by Cubano

I don't think its as lopsided as people are claiming. A-ram has a higher average, more SB, 1/2 the K's, more hits, slightly less RBI and HR, 4 GS's. 'ei started off ice cold and longo missed a month.

 

Sure he may get it just cause the MLB has been hyping up Longo and nobody knows who Alexei is, but it should be extremely close.

I don't think its as lopsided as people are claiming. A-ram has a higher average, more SB, 1/2 the K's, more hits, slightly less RBI and HR, 4 GS's. 'ei started off ice cold and longo missed a month.

 

Sure he may get it just cause the MLB has been hyping up Longo and nobody knows who Alexei is, but it should be extremely close.

 

You bring up an excellent point that highlights one of the things I really think is unfair in these types of selections. It is usually better to have a no month than a slow month. Voters tend to fill in high the no month and count the slow month. One of the challenges of being a rookie is 162 games. Coming up they would never play that long of a season and will almost always slump.

I don't think its as lopsided as people are claiming. A-ram has a higher average, more SB, 1/2 the K's, more hits, slightly less RBI and HR, 4 GS's. 'ei started off ice cold and longo missed a month.

 

Sure he may get it just cause the MLB has been hyping up Longo and nobody knows who Alexei is, but it should be extremely close.

Sure Alexei has 5 more SB but he's been an absolutely horrid base stealer, if he's going to be 12/21 then I'd rather he not steal bases at all. Longoria is 7/7 by the way. There's an 83 point difference in OPS, 27 point difference in OPS+ (which factors in the fact that Alexei gets to play half his games in the Cell) and Longoria has drawn 30 more walks. Slightly less HR? 6 is slightly less? Longoria is also an elite defensive 3B, while Alexei has been pretty underwhelming at 2B. ALL of Alexei's defensive metrics suck, so you have to give Longoria a huge edge on defense.

 

It's a tie in run production. Alexei takes contact hitting (AVG and avoiding K's) and hitting with RISP. Longoria takes power hitting, patience at the plate, base stealing prowess, defense and Longoria is the better player in close and late situations. And if Longoria is going to be penalized for strikeouts then I feel I must mention Alexei has grounded into 6 more double plays than Evan which tends to happen with contact hitters.

 

VORP rankings for AL Rookie Position Players:

35.0 - Aviles

34.8 - Longoria

20.7 - Span

20.3 - Ramirez

18.0 - C. Davis

 

Aviles also has some crazy ass numbers this season but I won't even bother making an argument for him.

Too bad bureauemployee isn't around.

 

I'd like to hear him explain how his scouting analysis last winter missed on Alexei.

 

Profiles to be nothing more than a utility guy... the next Omar Infante, eh?

 

(good natured ribbing intended)

Wait.. scouts are wrong sometimes? No way!!!

Longoria is the better player in close and late situations.

 

According to the Stats, I take Alexei. It is true that Longoria has been better late and close, but Alexei has been better in the other two categories.

 

 

Average with runners in scoring position.

Rank Player Team Average (hits/VB)

1 David DeJesus KC .419 ( 44/105 )

2 Ian Kinsler Tex .413 ( 45/109 )

3 Casey Blake LAD .393 ( 33/84 )

4 Shin-Soo Choo Cle .386 ( 32/83 )

5 Alexei Ramirez CWS .380 ( 41/108 )

6 Kevin Youkilis Bos .374 ( 55/147 )

7 Joe Mauer Min .362 ( 50/138 )

8 Melvin Mora Bal .360 ( 54/150 )

9 Justin Morneau Min .348 ( 63/181 )

10 Denard Span Min .346 ( 28/81 )

11 Garret Anderson LAA .338 ( 44/130 )

12 Hideki Matsui NYY .337 ( 29/86 )

13 David Ortiz Bos .336 ( 43/128 )

14 Johnny Damon NYY .333 ( 36/108 )

15 Ryan Sweeney Oak .330 ( 32/97 )

16 Raul Ibanez Sea .327 ( 56/171 )

17 Billy Butler KC .327 ( 33/101 )

18 Vladimir Guerrero LAA .321 ( 42/131 )

19 Aubrey Huff Bal .320 ( 49/153 )

20 Derek Jeter NYY .317 ( 44/139 )

 

 

Batting average late and close

Rank Player Team Average

1 Mike Lowell Bos .391 ( 25/64 )

2 Milton Bradley Tex .380 ( 19/50 )

3 Garret Anderson LAA .371 ( 33/89 )

4 Dustin Pedroia Bos .368 ( 35/95 )

5 Bobby Abreu NYY .361 ( 30/83 )

6 Carlos Quentin CWS .351 ( 26/74 )

7 Vladimir Guerrero LAA .350 ( 28/80 )

8t Maicer Izturis LAA .348 ( 16/46 )

8t Hideki Matsui NYY .348 ( 16/46 )

10 Gary Sheffield Det .339 ( 20/59 )

11 Carlos Pena TB .338 ( 27/80 )

12t Jose Lopez Sea .333 ( 36/108 )

12t Akinori Iwamura TB .333 ( 28/84 )

12t Evan Longoria TB .333 ( 19/57 )

15 Curtis Granderson Det .329 ( 24/73 )

16 Derek Jeter NYY .324 ( 24/74 )

17 Nick Punto Min .323 ( 20/62 )

18 Melvin Mora Bal .322 ( 28/87 )

19 Joe Mauer Min .321 ( 27/84 )

20t Jason Kubel Min .316 ( 25/79 )

20t Alexei Ramirez CWS .316 ( 25/79 )

 

 

Batting Average with the bases loaded

Rank Player Team Average

1 Jay Payton Bal .636 ( 7/11 )

2 Casey Blake LAD .600 ( 6/10 )

3 David DeJesus KC .556 ( 5/9 )

4t Dustin Pedroia Bos .500 ( 8/16 )

4t Jason Kubel Min .500 ( 7/14 )

4t Erick Aybar LAA .500 ( 5/10 )

4t Akinori Iwamura TB .500 ( 4/8 )

4t Carlos Quentin CWS .500 ( 4/8 )

4t J.D. Drew Bos .500 ( 3/6 )

4t Denard Span Min .500 ( 3/6 )

11 Alexei Ramirez CWS .471 ( 8/17 )

12 Edgar Renteria Det .462 ( 6/13 )

13t Bobby Abreu NYY .444 ( 8/18 )

13t Adrian Beltre Sea .444 ( 4/9 )

13t Shin-Soo Choo Cle .444 ( 4/9 )

13t Maicer Izturis LAA .444 ( 4/9 )

17t Miguel Cabrera Det .438 ( 7/16 )

17t Joe Inglett Tor .438 ( 7/16 )

19t Dioner Navarro TB .429 ( 6/14 )

19t Jack Hannahan Oak .429 ( 3/7 )

19t Matt Stairs Phi .429 ( 3/7 )

Edited September 30, 200817 yr by Cubano

OK, guys. Who in this forum took this video?

 

According to the Stats, I take Alexei. It is true that Longoria has been better late and close, but Alexei has been better in the other two categories.

 

 

Average with runners in scoring position.

Rank Player Team Average (hits/VB)

1 David DeJesus KC .419 ( 44/105 )

2 Ian Kinsler Tex .413 ( 45/109 )

3 Casey Blake LAD .393 ( 33/84 )

4 Shin-Soo Choo Cle .386 ( 32/83 )

5 Alexei Ramirez CWS .380 ( 41/108 )

6 Kevin Youkilis Bos .374 ( 55/147 )

7 Joe Mauer Min .362 ( 50/138 )

8 Melvin Mora Bal .360 ( 54/150 )

9 Justin Morneau Min .348 ( 63/181 )

10 Denard Span Min .346 ( 28/81 )

11 Garret Anderson LAA .338 ( 44/130 )

12 Hideki Matsui NYY .337 ( 29/86 )

13 David Ortiz Bos .336 ( 43/128 )

14 Johnny Damon NYY .333 ( 36/108 )

15 Ryan Sweeney Oak .330 ( 32/97 )

16 Raul Ibanez Sea .327 ( 56/171 )

17 Billy Butler KC .327 ( 33/101 )

18 Vladimir Guerrero LAA .321 ( 42/131 )

19 Aubrey Huff Bal .320 ( 49/153 )

20 Derek Jeter NYY .317 ( 44/139 )

 

 

Batting average late and close

Rank Player Team Average

1 Mike Lowell Bos .391 ( 25/64 )

2 Milton Bradley Tex .380 ( 19/50 )

3 Garret Anderson LAA .371 ( 33/89 )

4 Dustin Pedroia Bos .368 ( 35/95 )

5 Bobby Abreu NYY .361 ( 30/83 )

6 Carlos Quentin CWS .351 ( 26/74 )

7 Vladimir Guerrero LAA .350 ( 28/80 )

8t Maicer Izturis LAA .348 ( 16/46 )

8t Hideki Matsui NYY .348 ( 16/46 )

10 Gary Sheffield Det .339 ( 20/59 )

11 Carlos Pena TB .338 ( 27/80 )

12t Jose Lopez Sea .333 ( 36/108 )

12t Akinori Iwamura TB .333 ( 28/84 )

12t Evan Longoria TB .333 ( 19/57 )

15 Curtis Granderson Det .329 ( 24/73 )

16 Derek Jeter NYY .324 ( 24/74 )

17 Nick Punto Min .323 ( 20/62 )

18 Melvin Mora Bal .322 ( 28/87 )

19 Joe Mauer Min .321 ( 27/84 )

20t Jason Kubel Min .316 ( 25/79 )

20t Alexei Ramirez CWS .316 ( 25/79 )

 

 

Batting Average with the bases loaded

Rank Player Team Average

1 Jay Payton Bal .636 ( 7/11 )

2 Casey Blake LAD .600 ( 6/10 )

3 David DeJesus KC .556 ( 5/9 )

4t Dustin Pedroia Bos .500 ( 8/16 )

4t Jason Kubel Min .500 ( 7/14 )

4t Erick Aybar LAA .500 ( 5/10 )

4t Akinori Iwamura TB .500 ( 4/8 )

4t Carlos Quentin CWS .500 ( 4/8 )

4t J.D. Drew Bos .500 ( 3/6 )

4t Denard Span Min .500 ( 3/6 )

11 Alexei Ramirez CWS .471 ( 8/17 )

12 Edgar Renteria Det .462 ( 6/13 )

13t Bobby Abreu NYY .444 ( 8/18 )

13t Adrian Beltre Sea .444 ( 4/9 )

13t Shin-Soo Choo Cle .444 ( 4/9 )

13t Maicer Izturis LAA .444 ( 4/9 )

17t Miguel Cabrera Det .438 ( 7/16 )

17t Joe Inglett Tor .438 ( 7/16 )

19t Dioner Navarro TB .429 ( 6/14 )

19t Jack Hannahan Oak .429 ( 3/7 )

19t Matt Stairs Phi .429 ( 3/7 )

 

oh how I miss him

 

Cubano, I just want to say you've been an awesome addition to this board!

Thanks, Bmags.

There's one more thing to like about Alexei. I was watching some you tube clip from Cuba and saw he wore #2. Nellie Fox was a great White Sox 2nd baseman who wore #2 .

There's one more thing to like about Alexei. I was watching some you tube clip from Cuba and saw he wore #2. Nellie Fox was a great White Sox 2nd baseman who wore #2 .

 

He wears now number 10. I think he chose number 10 because the greates cuban player post 1959 use to wear that number. He was from Pinar del Rio too and played 3B. His name is Omar Linares. Linares always attracted the atention of scouts every time the cuban national team played internationally.