Didn't Rios just get $100 million from Toronto??

 

that was Wells. Any team that gave Alexis Rios $100 million right now would have an alienated fan base.

If we go after Weeks, I'll have KW's head.

LoL, I guess I haven't seen much of him. What's his problem, he seems to have alot of talent. I mean if you get Hardy we still do not have a leadoff guy or a guy who can hit second in the lineup.

 

Also why is everyone so down on Fields? I'll admit I haven't had time to pay attention to the minors as much as I usually do.

wonder if danny richar will show up to ST...and if so, ready

Aww, for the 1st fake lineup for 2009! Only hours after the season ended no less!

 

3B-Figgins(I'm not even sure how this one gets done, but it does make all the sense in the world)

SS-Hardy(traded for Vazquez)

RF-Quentin

DH-Thome

1B-Konerko

2B-Ramirez

LF-Swisher

C-Pierzynski

CF-Anderson

 

SP-Buehrle

SP-Floyd

SP-Danks

SP-DyeTrade

SP-Garcia

 

The team defense is improved a lot in that scenerio, and the core is still fairly young.

 

I would be atleast OK with it, I just think Figgins is overrated as hell. If he hits .310 though, he'll be a damn good player.

 

I also don't know what all you can count on from Garcia, so it'd be interesting to see if Richard could hang as a 5th starter. I also wonder about the futures of Poreda and, to a lesser extent, Egbert.

wonder if danny richar will show up to ST...and if so, ready

 

For the Reds?

Aww, for the 1st fake lineup for 2009! Only hours after the season ended no less!

 

3B-Figgins(I'm not even sure how this one gets done, but it does make all the sense in the world)

SS-Hardy(traded for Vazquez)

RF-Quentin

DH-Thome

1B-Konerko

2B-Ramirez

LF-Swisher

C-Pierzynski

CF-Anderson

 

SP-Buehrle

SP-Floyd

SP-Danks

SP-DyeTrade

SP-Garcia

 

The team defense is improved a lot in that scenerio, and the core is still fairly young.

Garcia....no thanks! Anderson.....Starting...no thanks! What about Brad Penny on a one year deal? Then put Richard in the 5th spot. Would the Angels trade Adenhart(or another minor leaguer SP) & Figgins for Dye?

For the Reds?

 

with Brandon Phillips showing up in Arizona for the Sox

I actually hope we hold on to Boone and give him another try as a loogy.

God no! I'm sorry I cannot stand Boone. Sign Rhodes for the loggy spot.

God no! I'm sorry I cannot stand Boone. Sign Rhodes for the loggy spot.

 

The last thing we need to do is spend another 3-4 mil on a reliever. We have plenty of lefty options (Boone, Poreda).

Here's mine....

 

3B-Figgins(Dye traded to fill their DH spot)

SS-Hardy(traded for Vazquez)(I like this idea)

RF-Quentin

DH-Thome

1B-Konerko

2B-Ramirez

LF-Swisher

C-Pierzynski

CF-Gwynn(Part of the Vazquez trade)

 

SP-Buehrle

SP-Floyd

SP-Danks

SP-Penny

SP-Richard

 

CP-Jenks

RP-Thornton

RP-McClung

RP-Linebrink

RP-Rhodes(FA Signing)

LRP-Carrascco

The last thing we need to do is spend another 3-4 mil on a reliever. We have plenty of lefty options (Boone, Poreda).

If Boone was an option why would we trade for Ramirez from KC?

Also why is everyone so down on Fields? I'll admit I haven't had time to pay attention to the minors as much as I usually do.

 

IIRC, he did s**t in the minors this year. And he needs knee surgery during the offseason.

JJ Hardy was a name that was brought up that does make a lot of sense.

A deal like that would kill this team. We don't need Hardy for his offense or his defense, and if we trade pitching, we'll need even more pitching than we already need right now (unless you buy Richard as a starter, I don't).

 

Deal Javy to the Mets, Phils, or Braves. He'll only accept deals to teams closer to his home, and Kenny will want him in the NL, so those teams make the most sense. Depending on what they do, even the Nats or Orioles could be a darkhorse. The target should be near-ready prospects and underachieving pre-arb players with high ceilings. I expect to see a Freddy Garcia type of trade made, except this time the return will look better on paper at the time it's made.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to dealing Dye to someone for pitching as well. I want Tampa Bay in the picture if we're dealing him because I want their pitching prospects, at least a couple of them. I have a feeling the Yankees would be in on JD if he's made available. Who knows who else would have interest and the pieces to make a deal, but there are a lot of teams out there thinking they'll be contenders in '09.

I think Javy pitched his last game for the Sox. His comments and his performance down the stretch really hit the wrong nerve with the Sox organization. The Sox need another SP. Obviously CC would be perfect but he will strike gold somewhere else. Burnett and Sheets maybe decent options via free agency. KW will probably try to sign O. Hudson and try to aqcuire Figgins. If Hudson goes elsewhere, i can see KW going hard after Roberts again.

 

1. Chone Figgins 3b (Figgins and Scot Sheilds for Konerko)

2. Orlando Hudson 2b (Free agency)

3. Carlos Quentin LF

4. Jermaine Dye RF

5. Jim Thome DH (Take the option)

6. Alexie Ramirez SS

7. AJ Pierzynski C

8. Nick Swisher 1b

9. Willy Taverez CF (Taverez and L. Vizcaino for Javy Vazquez)

 

Rotation: Buerhle, Floyd, Danks, (Burnett/Lowe/Sheets), Contreras/ Richard pending on health status of Contreras

 

Bench: Hall C, Anderson OF, Wise OF, INF?

 

Bullpen: Jenks CL

Linebrink Set up

Sheilds Set up

Thorton Set up

Dotel Set up

Vizciano Long man

MacDougal garbage man

 

Playing GM is fun, but i know KW has something completely different in mind. Haha i cant wait to see the moves he makes!

 

 

A deal like that would kill this team. We don't need Hardy for his offense or his defense, and if we trade pitching, we'll need even more pitching than we already need right now (unless you buy Richard as a starter, I don't).

 

Deal Javy to the Mets, Phils, or Braves. He'll only accept deals to teams closer to his home, and Kenny will want him in the NL, so those teams make the most sense. Depending on what they do, even the Nats or Orioles could be a darkhorse. The target should be near-ready prospects and underachieving pre-arb players with high ceilings. I expect to see a Freddy Garcia type of trade made, except this time the return will look better on paper at the time it's made.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to dealing Dye to someone for pitching as well. I want Tampa Bay in the picture if we're dealing him because I want their pitching prospects, at least a couple of them. I have a feeling the Yankees would be in on JD if he's made available. Who knows who else would have interest and the pieces to make a deal, but there are a lot of teams out there thinking they'll be contenders in '09.

What if the Sox did the Brewers trade and the flipped JD for Figgins & Adenhart for LAA?

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by DaGame2584

-Sign/Trade for a middle infielder(OC would probably be the easiest route)

-Do whatever it takes to get Chone Figgins. I can't imagine overpaying for him because I can't imagine any group of players in our organization, minus the obvious, that would be overpaying for any sort of top notch every-dayer. He kills about ten birds with one stone.

-Trade Javy

 

Beyond that I don't really care. We need one more starter and there should be plenty of options there.

If Boone was an option why would we trade for Ramirez from KC?

 

Because when Contreras went down, KW went out and got any arm he could. He probably thought Carrasco would become the 5th starter, and we needed a long man.

We all know that KW likes to go after guys numerous times when he thinks they might be available. If the Sox decided to keep Alexei at 2B, Edgar Renteria could be a possible option at SS.

We all know that KW likes to go after guys numerous times when he thinks they might be available. If the Sox decided to keep Alexei at 2B, Edgar Renteria could be a possible option at SS.

This is true, but I hope he doesn't do this one. Edgar needs to go back to AAAA(NL) where he belongs. I see him in a Cardinals jersey next season.

Here's mine....

 

3B-Figgins(Dye traded to fill their DH spot)

SS-Hardy(traded for Vazquez)(I like this idea)

RF-Quentin

DH-Thome

1B-Konerko

2B-Ramirez

LF-Swisher

C-Pierzynski

CF-Gwynn(Part of the Vazquez trade)

 

SP-Buehrle

SP-Floyd

SP-Danks

SP-Penny

SP-Richard

 

CP-Jenks

RP-Thornton

RP-McClung

RP-Linebrink

RP-Rhodes(FA Signing)

LRP-Carrascco

Penny is a flyball pitcher with an ERA over 6 in a hitters park in the National League. He's got a cheap option yet the Dodgers will decline it, and he sounds like a real asshole to boot.

 

Richard IMO doesn't have the stuff to get through the lineup 3 times. His job should be what Horacio Ramirez's job was supposed to be: long relief and lefty match-ups.

 

If the Sox traded Dye for Figgins straight up I'd find where Kenny lives and pelt his house with bags of my own s***. Figgins is very good, and I want him, but if that deal goes down we'd better be getting something else. Since 2005 JD has been one of the better run producers in the league, he's on a below-market deal for 2 more seasons, and he carries no baggage.

Dye for Figgins is freakishly similar to Lee for Pods

What if the Sox did the Brewers trade and the flipped JD for Figgins & Ardenhart for LAA?

I still don't like that deal. I'd like the Angels deal but with Javy we should target pitching. Even though Javy has kicked the genitalia of every Sox fan out there, let's not forget he's still a #3 starter capable of pitching in the AL and in the Cell. He's very valuable to this team over a 162 game season, if not in the playoffs, so we'll need to pick some guys up that we'll be able to count on to replace that next year and going forward.

 

Dye for Figgins is freakishly similar to Lee for Pods

Even though it worked out great, that Lee for Pods+Vizcaino deal was still a rip-off. Kenny should've picked up a prospect there.

Penny is a flyball pitcher with an ERA over 6 in a hitters park in the National League. He's got a cheap option yet the Dodgers will decline it, and he sounds like a real asshole to boot.

 

Richard IMO doesn't have the stuff to get through the lineup 3 times. His job should be what Horacio Ramirez's job was supposed to be: long relief and lefty match-ups.

 

If the Sox traded Dye for Figgins straight up I'd find where Kenny lives and pelt his house with bags of my own s***. Figgins is very good, and I want him, but if that deal goes down we'd better be getting something else. Since 2005 JD has been one of the better run producers in the league, he's on a below-market deal for 2 more seasons, and he carries no baggage.

Well how do you see us getting Figgins? I wouldn't want to do that deal either. I would prefer if it was PK going not JD. I agree w/ you on Richard but do we have a better option(Egbert, Broadway)? If you go the FA to fix the spot Javy leaves who do you get? Lowe(Too much money)? Garland(Too much money & years)?

Even though it worked out great, that Lee for Pods+Vizcaino deal was still a rip-off. Kenny should've picked up a prospect there.

Financially we were in a different era. The money was what KW got. You don't get the 2004 offseason brewers to spend a ton of money and give up a prospect too.