Fantl916 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 According to Rotoworld (I'm too lazy to link the blurb) the Rockies are probably going to non-tender Tavaras. If so, i absolutley wouldnt mind him on a 2 year deal, and have him split time with BA or Owens in CF. Maybe bat Owens against righties and Tavaras against lefties? would give us the ability to have speed in the lineup at all times, while putting them both in situations where they can succeed. no i havent looked at the splits in case im wrong. i think however think signing Willy wouldnt be a bad move. He'd be an adequate table setter atop the lineup and ease the pressure on Owens or BA to perform everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 my thread's better b/c i think his name has an 'e' in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I dont want Taveras at all, we already have the same player in Owens. Taveras cant hit and has a terrible OBP thats why he is being non-tendered. Not really the guys u look to pick up to build a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (joeynach @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 01:07 PM) I dont want Taveras at all, we already have the same player in Owens. Taveras cant hit and has a terrible OBP thats why he is being non-tendered. Not really the guys u look to pick up to build a team. Slight difference though in their pasts: Willy's best year at the MLB level is better than Owens' best at the AAA level. Edited December 12, 2008 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) I have memories of the guy being a nightmare against us. The guy can run. I wouldn't mind it as a Plan B or C. I've read that he's a priority for the Reds as they need a CF. Edited December 12, 2008 by BaseballNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 If we were to pick him up on the cheap after he's non-tendered, I wouldn't be all that upset about it. He's certainly not a great (or good) player, but I think he's better than Jerry Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 He also suffered a stress fracture in his leg in the final week of the season. He was traded to the Nationals for Tim Redding just a few days ago but failed his physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 yeah I think the fact of his health means he's a no go. Otherwise, if we were to face this season with Owens actually being our CF...then clearly I'd prefer Taveras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 02:31 PM) yeah I think the fact of his health means he's a no go. Otherwise, if we were to face this season with Owens actually being our CF...then clearly I'd prefer Taveras. I think the fact that he was almost dealt for Tim Redding should mean he's a no go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Taveras is a bad player. No need to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywins1 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 02:27 PM) He also suffered a stress fracture in his leg in the final week of the season. He was traded to the Nationals for Tim Redding just a few days ago but failed his physical. It wasn't Taveras who failed it, it was a reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Looks like you're right. As of last night it was Taveras' leg that killed the deal now it looks like it was Morillo's health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 01:31 PM) yeah I think the fact of his health means he's a no go. Otherwise, if we were to face this season with Owens actually being our CF...then clearly I'd prefer Taveras. I think a stress fracture will heal by spring training. This isn't a career ending injury or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 His lack of ability to get on base should be career ending though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I don't think that he would be a bad option in CF and bat at the bottom of the order. Leading off he wouldn't be that good, but as a bottom of the order hitter and the fact that he can run like hell wouldn't kill me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) I have memories of the guy being a nightmare against us. The guy can run. Those memories ere from the World Series he was the only Astros to hit well against us, unfortunately, that was also the highlight of his career. Taveras is not a serviceable ballplayer in the American League. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (shakes @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 03:33 PM) I think a stress fracture will heal by spring training. This isn't a career ending injury or anything. they can be depnding on where it is and the health of the bone. They should heal within 4-8 weeks. We are pushing that time frame now. If it is still an issue the bone density and health of the bone needs to be in question. Edited December 12, 2008 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 10:27 PM) Those memories ere from the World Series he was the only Astros to hit well against us, unfortunately, that was also the highlight of his career. Taveras is not a serviceable ballplayer in the American League. That is all. 1. lance berkman 2. If we had a set OF, i'd take him as a 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 07:16 PM) 1. lance berkman 2. If we had a set OF, i'd take him as a 4th. You'd take an all-speed, oft-injured, no power OF in a homerun hitters park in the American League? As a 4th OF just in case Jerry Owens doesn't come through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Well, Willy was not tendered a contract and is now a free agent along with Chris Capuano, Chuck James, Chris Burke, Kevin Cash, Justin Christian, Chris Britton, Clay Henley, Charlie Haeger, Jonny Gomes, Scott Proctor, Yhency Brazoban, Takashi Saito, Angel Berroa, Mario Alverez and Tim Redding. That's it so far, I'm sure there will be a few more announced in the coming hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I think we should kick the tires at least on Capuano, James (well, Kyle Davies showed an ex-Braves starter can rebound), Burke (superfluous?) and then Proctor, Brazoban and Saito to replace Carrasco on the roster. Still waiting on Bedard (likely to be tendered) and Cabrera (50/50). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 04:27 PM) Those memories ere from the World Series he was the only Astros to hit well against us, unfortunately, that was also the highlight of his career. Taveras is not a serviceable ballplayer in the American League. That is all. Those memories were also from last season when he stole 5 bases in a single game against us. Willy Taveras = Sox killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 11:44 PM) Those memories were also from last season when he stole 5 bases in a single game against us. Willy Taveras = Sox killer. Yep, stole 5 bases and failed to score even 1 time. He actually had 1/18 of his total extra base hits for the season against us in 1 AB in that very game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 11:14 PM) Yep, stole 5 bases and failed to score even 1 time. He actually had 1/18 of his total extra base hits for the season against us in 1 AB in that very game. He comes to play at the Cell. When a guy steals 5 bases and doesn't score once, I would put the onus on his teammates. Willy T did all he could do to get himself into scoring position that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 06:04 PM) You'd take an all-speed, oft-injured, no power OF in a homerun hitters park in the American League? As a 4th OF just in case Jerry Owens doesn't come through? You are talking about Jerry Owens right? All speed, no power, no obp, injured. Big difference here is that Taveras by all accounts plays above average defense in CF and has a plus arm, he's also had success at the major league level. Owens on the other hand is a pretty bad CF with a noodle arm and no history of success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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