December 27, 200817 yr They just did that so they could sweeten the Bailey for Dye deal. Edited December 27, 200817 yr by scenario
December 27, 200817 yr Good. Now we won't sign another Jerry Owens (with a better arm) for more money.
December 27, 200817 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 27, 2008 -> 11:36 AM) Good. Now we won't sign another Jerry Owens (with a better arm) for more money. Willy Tavares is a LOT better then Jerry Owens. I don't even consider Jerry Owens a baseball player, that's how bad he is.
December 27, 200817 yr QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 27, 2008 -> 11:40 AM) Willy Tavares is a LOT better then Jerry Owens. I don't even consider Jerry Owens a baseball player, that's how bad he is. You are welcome to feel that way. IMO, if Owens and Taveras played full time in the same league in 2009, you'd see them put up pretty much identical numbers. Taveras has a better arm, but also has a broken leg issue. They are a wash to me.
December 27, 200817 yr So besides Owens, who is left as a potential leadoff hitting Centerfield target for the White Sox?
December 27, 200817 yr I guess Taveras is an upgrade over Norris Hopper so good for the Reds. But the White Sox didn't get Taveras so better for us.
December 27, 200817 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 27, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) So besides Owens, who is left as a potential leadoff hitting Centerfield target for the White Sox? Kenny said the next thing he would do was focus on the outfield. So far it has been very quite... Im guessing he will continue to be patient, see where the market is in a week or two and then pull a trigger or two. He wants to maximize what he gets in return for Dye or Konerko. With most teams taking shape heading into the new year- KW can zone into teams with specific needs. For instance, the Angels are seeking a 1B. The Giants are seeking veteran hitters, and with the aquisition of Randy Johnson, Jonathan Sanchez is likely available. The Reds are aslo looking for some offensive power... I am more than possitive KW is looking at all the possibile returns from some of those teams im sure if he can find a leadoff hitter from one of those teams within there minor league systems he is doing that... Just wait a few more weeks, than the market will be that much clearer and KW shall STRIKE!
December 27, 200817 yr QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 27, 2008 -> 12:52 PM) Kenny said the next thing he would do was focus on the outfield. So far it has been very quite... Im guessing he will continue to be patient, see where the market is in a week or two and then pull a trigger or two. He wants to maximize what he gets in return for Dye or Konerko. With most teams taking shape heading into the new year- KW can zone into teams with specific needs. For instance, the Angels are seeking a 1B. The Giants are seeking veteran hitters, and with the aquisition of Randy Johnson, Jonathan Sanchez is likely available. The Reds are aslo looking for some offensive power... I am more than possitive KW is looking at all the possibile returns from some of those teams im sure if he can find a leadoff hitter from one of those teams within there minor league systems he is doing that... Just wait a few more weeks, than the market will be that much clearer and KW shall STRIKE! You might be right. RJ obviously isn't a long-term solution and they have a pretty formidable rotation with Lincecum, Cain, Zito, RJ, and Sanchez (not sure what Noah Lowry's situation is), but he certainly could be used to help them land a bat they desperately need. Of course, they could always keep Sanchez and sign a Dunn, Abreu, etc.
December 27, 200817 yr QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 27, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) thank TQC The Quentin Carlos? Is that what we're using these days?
December 27, 200817 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 27, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) So besides Owens, who is left as a potential leadoff hitting Centerfield target for the White Sox? Among free agents? I've suggested that Mark Kotsay profiles like a KW acquisition. In the trade market? Chone Figgins.
December 29, 200817 yr So besides Owens, who is left as a potential leadoff hitting Centerfield target for the White Sox? Probably nobody as usual.
December 29, 200817 yr QUOTE (tommy @ Dec 27, 2008 -> 08:13 PM) At least the constant Willy T to White Sox rumors will stop. Amen
December 31, 200817 yr Taveras' deal is worth $6.25MM over two years, according to our old friend Hal McCoy. WOW. That's more than we are paying Alexei Ramirez for four seasons. (And I say this keeping in mind how much we've been paying Uribe the last couple of seasons). Maybe KW was sniffing around at some point...but I'm sure he wasn't willing to pony up that kind of money. Interesting (VERY!) move by the Reds to shell out that kind of cash when they supposedly can't afford Jermaine Dye. If that was the option he was presented, even Jerry Owens looks attractive in comparison. Edited December 31, 200817 yr by caulfield12
December 31, 200817 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 31, 2008 -> 01:54 AM) Taveras' deal is worth $6.25MM over two years, according to our old friend Hal McCoy. WOW. That's more than we are paying Alexei Ramirez for four seasons. (And I say this keeping in mind how much we've been paying Uribe the last couple of seasons). Maybe KW was sniffing around at some point...but I'm sure he wasn't willing to pony up that kind of money. Interesting (VERY!) move by the Reds to shell out that kind of cash when they supposedly can't afford Jermaine Dye. If that was the option he was presented, even Jerry Owens looks attractive in comparison. S***! I was expecting about $2.25-$3 million over two years.
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