I really think when you take him away from Petco he goes from a seemingly elite pitcher, to just a pretty good pitcher. I would not want to be paying that kind of money to a "pretty good good pitcher." That money should be reserved for the absolute cream of the crop aces, not Peavy.

I think this has been discussed ad nauseum in the other Jake Peavy threads.

An ace is ace. Even if said ace is a coward. If we could rework the option year, and cut out this bulls*** opt out after every year nonsense then i'd be go for a second go around.

Yes, an Ace is an Ace. Buehrle+Peavy+Danks=we will compete in this division for years.

22 million is alot in that final year, but he would only be 31 at the time.

I wouldn't give him a full NTC throughout the entire contract. That's crazy. I'd be willing to guarantee the option year, but would re-work the deal to give him a limited NTC in 2012 and 2013. If a guaranteed $22 million in 2013 isn't enough for him to compromise on the NTC, he can play somewhere else.

 

The money is an issue, but he is an ace and combined with Buehrle and Danks (and Floyd if he remembers how to pitch), the Sox would have a great rotation for years.

Yes, an Ace is an Ace. Buehrle+Peavy+Danks=we will compete in this division for years.

 

I agree with you. I would still add Floyd to that group.

No, if only for that outrageous 2013 option. Think about it logically -- is he worth that amount right now? Now, imagine four years past, when you'd expect a natural regression in his abilities due to health issues. His delivery is violent. It'll only get worse. He'll, I'd guess by 2011 we'd begin regretting the deal.

 

I hope this rumor dies quickly. Let us finish this miserable season in peace.

BTW I am 100% sure that this poll would have had different results 24 hours ago.

Would of loved for it to happen, but slpet fine last night as well.

I have to say I've learned more about our minor league system so far this season than ever before. Although I don't like seeing the Sox struggle, I am quite excited about the future. 2010 and beyond could be very entertaining here.

I really think when you take him away from Petco he goes from a seemingly elite pitcher, to just a pretty good pitcher. I would not want to be paying that kind of money to a "pretty good good pitcher." That money should be reserved for the absolute cream of the crop aces, not Peavy.

 

 

 

Jake Peavy had dead arm problems last year & the year before. Usually that's a sign for something bad to come. He's great against the weak-hitting national league, he got crushed in interleague & WBC competition.

 

I think that in the long run Peavy not coming to the Sox will be the best for both teams. The Sox need to rebuild in spite of what the team says and they do not need a multimillion dollar pitcher just to draw fans to the park. This team is lacking in all areas pitching, defense and offense. The best thing that can happen is that the Sox will make trades for prospects and start preparing for the future.

 

If not for the opt-out he asked for, I think its still a deal to seriously consider. With the opt-out, I say pass.

 

The opt out kills the deal, unless the Padres were willing to send back spects if he opts out.

 

The reason the Sox are paying the price in terms of spects is that he would be under contract for a few years.

That's 2/5ths of the current Barons rotation, plus I'd like to see Daniel Hudson in person in the near future, so I'd say no, but that's me.

Edited May 22, 200916 yr by JPN366

Since contracts for "stars" are often bloated during the out-years, I'm looking at this from just the baseball perspective and not the finances:

 

I vote YES: an ace is worth giving up a potential #3 solid pitcher (Richard ceiling) and likely an elite set-up man/closer (Poreda) unless you think he's going to develop more plus pitches. Not sure what we have with Ely and Hudson but we can replenish in the next few drafts and not be that far behind the development of these two.

 

You can always look to the "future" and if we think that all of the Barons along with Quentin, Danks, Floyd will be the team in 2010-2011, we are kidding ourselves. The prospects will be eased in and in the meantime, we could have elite pitching for 4 years to help ease that transition.

No, if only for that outrageous 2013 option. Think about it logically -- is he worth that amount right now? Now, imagine four years past, when you'd expect a natural regression in his abilities due to health issues. His delivery is violent. It'll only get worse. He'll, I'd guess by 2011 we'd begin regretting the deal.

 

We were regretting the Contreras deal in 2007 and the Vazquez extension last season. Yet, it didn't cripple our ability to spend money and compete.

 

I can understand why people don't want to pick up Peavy's contract, but we're also dumping an absolute ton of payroll over the next year and a half. And outside of Poreda, I don't see any really good starting pitching prospects in our minor league system. If Floyd contiues to experience problems, we're going to be relying on Broadway and Richard to anchor the back of the rotation for the next couple of years. Therefore, I would be inclined to take a chance on Peavy, provided that he's tradeable in 2012 and 2013.

 

Edit: I didn't read about Peavy's yearly opt-out demands when I posted this. There's no way that I include that in a contract.

 

Edited May 22, 200916 yr by WCSox

The results of this poll are comical. Some may be legit votes, I guarantee most are bitter votes.

He's a right handed Erik Bedard in the AL. That being said, I would still say yes.

Edited May 22, 200916 yr by chw42

Frankly...with the guys you specified as the PTBNL, no.

With the yearly option to terminate the contract, no way in hell.

Giving that kind of money and four quality arms for a guy who questions his own ability to pitch in the AL? No thanks. It seems that you end up regretting having these huge contracts more often than not anyway e.g. Todd Helton, Mike Hampton, Barry Zito, Vernon Wells, Michael Young, Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, Jason Schmidt, etc.

The guy is a freaking ace. Filthy stuff and a front of the rotation guy. He might not post sub 2.5 ERA's but the guy is still an ace, whether its the Al or NL cause I truly think that front line pitchers aren't effected as much as mediocre pitchers are by the change in leagues.

 

So f*** yes I want him, only thing I wouldn't buy into are all those freaking opt-out clauses. I'm not giving up 4 prospects, unless the others are of zero value, unless we are locks to keep him for a while.

With the yearly option to terminate the contract, no way in hell.

 

But under the circumstances of the poll, yeah bring him in.

Edited May 22, 200916 yr by bschmaranz