August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:23 PM) ...check out Jeff Francouer's rookie stats and remember how people were so ga-ga over him too... .300/.336/.549/.885 70 GP, 272 AB, 14 HR, 20 2B, 1 3B, 45 RBI, 11BB it would seem like the lack of walks and reliance on homers made this predictable, but Francoeur was hitting .300 over 70 games with a ton of doubles...doesn't that sound familiar? His career line is currently a disappointing .266/.308/.424/.732 and the power numbers have been relatively down since 06 - just 82 career homers. So what happened to Jeff Francouer? Couldn't the same thing happen to Beckham? You can pick examples from both sides of the fence. I think everyone understands that. Beckham could become the next Jerome Walton, or, at least in terms of consistency, the next Albert Pujols. That's what's great about baseball.
August 5, 200916 yr Lets not start to play this game...right now, Beckham is the Sox best hitter and until he proves he isn't then we can talk about this. But right now Becks is hitting over .300 and is just a doubles machine. End of discussion
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) Will Chuck Norris volunteer to protect him?? Gordon Beckham needs not protection. That role is reserved by his hair.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:58 PM) Gordon Beckham will make Albert Pujols look like Dewayne Wise at the plate. WILL?
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 07:23 PM) ...check out Jeff Francouer's rookie stats and remember how people were so ga-ga over him too... .300/.336/.549/.885 70 GP, 272 AB, 14 HR, 20 2B, 1 3B, 45 RBI, 11BB it would seem like the lack of walks and reliance on homers made this predictable, but Francoeur was hitting .300 over 70 games with a ton of doubles...doesn't that sound familiar? His career line is currently a disappointing .266/.308/.424/.732 and the power numbers have been relatively down since 06 - just 82 career homers. So what happened to Jeff Francouer? Couldn't the same thing happen to Beckham? No, Beckham >than Francouer
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:59 PM) WILL? As much as I like Beckham and I agree that he is the best player on the Sox right now, don't compare him to Pujols. Pujols is in a league of his own.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) As much as I like Beckham and I agree that he is the best player on the Sox right now, don't compare him to Pujols. Pujols is in a league of his own. Yeah, and its like AA compared to where Gordon's at
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 03:04 PM) As much as I like Beckham and I agree that he is the best player on the Sox right now, don't compare him to Pujols. Pujols is in a league of his own. It's a league far below Beckham. Beckham already HAS made Pujols look like DeWayne Wise. Albert Pujols wants to be Gordon Beckham when he grows up. Edited August 5, 200916 yr by lostfan
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) As much as I like Beckham and I agree that he is the best player on the Sox right now, don't compare him to Pujols. Pujols is in a league of his own. Relax. I only mentioned Pujols as an example of consistency after a strong rookie year. Beckham is no Pujols, and apart from some jokes, no one here thinks Beckham is as good as Pujols (I think).
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:23 PM) ...check out Jeff Francouer's rookie stats and remember how people were so ga-ga over him too... .300/.336/.549/.885 70 GP, 272 AB, 14 HR, 20 2B, 1 3B, 45 RBI, 11BB it would seem like the lack of walks and reliance on homers made this predictable, but Francoeur was hitting .300 over 70 games with a ton of doubles...doesn't that sound familiar? His career line is currently a disappointing .266/.308/.424/.732 and the power numbers have been relatively down since 06 - just 82 career homers. So what happened to Jeff Francouer? Couldn't the same thing happen to Beckham? You should at least compare spray charts, Becks is hitting to all fields, making it a lot less likely this is all a fluke. I think that is the main reason we are excited.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:23 PM) ...check out Jeff Francouer's rookie stats and remember how people were so ga-ga over him too... .300/.336/.549/.885 70 GP, 272 AB, 14 HR, 20 2B, 1 3B, 45 RBI, 11BB it would seem like the lack of walks and reliance on homers made this predictable, but Francoeur was hitting .300 over 70 games with a ton of doubles...doesn't that sound familiar? His career line is currently a disappointing .266/.308/.424/.732 and the power numbers have been relatively down since 06 - just 82 career homers. So what happened to Jeff Francouer? Couldn't the same thing happen to Beckham? I'm sure there were guys who did similar or worse to Beckham who ended up being fantastic ballplayers. Francouer - maybe I am wrong but he isn't the natural kind of ballplayer Beckham is. Two sport guy - good at both but no real shot at great. I dont think people are seriously getting carried away theyre just having fun with his success right now. No reason to not.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) You've nicely overlooked the K ratio. Beckham as a rookie: 6.46 AB/K Francoeur as a rookie: 4.43 AB/K Beckham has always been and will always be a much better contact hitter. Getz is actually a better comparison to Beckham than Francouer is, and Getz is still a really bad comparison. IMO Beckham will be a lot more like Chase Utley. IMO, Beckham will be a lot more like.. well, Beckham. Sorry, I've just never really been a fan of comparing players to other players. He is what he is, thankfully. He's going to be amazing.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:20 PM) Sorry, I've just never really been a fan of comparing players to other players. The heck with all these decades of history in the sport. Comparisons are for losers.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 03:11 PM) Relax. I only mentioned Pujols as an example of consistency after a strong rookie year. Beckham is no Pujols, and apart from some jokes, no one here thinks Beckham is as good as Pujols (I think). No, Beckham is not Pujols, nor is he as good as Pujols. He's better.
August 5, 200916 yr Can't we all just enjoy the production we're getting from him now? Kid's a stud. Let's wait until he starts the lift and pull mentality before we castrate him.
August 5, 200916 yr I know it seems like many dont like the slayer name. But my buddies and I have fun with it. He, MB, and Quentin we can texts about inserting whatever pitcher or hitter they face then say - Slayed, or Conquered or Hunted. Referring to our nicknames for said players - The Slayer, The Bounty Hunter for MB and The Conquistador for Carlos. It's quite enjoyable to have Slayer added to the mix.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 11:23 AM) ...check out Jeff Francouer's rookie stats and remember how people were so ga-ga over him too... .300/.336/.549/.885 70 GP, 272 AB, 14 HR, 20 2B, 1 3B, 45 RBI, 11BB it would seem like the lack of walks and reliance on homers made this predictable, but Francoeur was hitting .300 over 70 games with a ton of doubles...doesn't that sound familiar? His career line is currently a disappointing .266/.308/.424/.732 and the power numbers have been relatively down since 06 - just 82 career homers. So what happened to Jeff Francouer? Couldn't the same thing happen to Beckham? It could, but Francouer had major flaws in his swing that people knew about. On top of it he didn't have a handle of the strike zone.
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