and by the way, unless this dude was decomposing for 8 months, it was not well before any of the things we mentioned.

To both sides here, my response is to urge caution. There's so little information out there so far, deliberately, that taking any political conclusion is going to lead you down a dangerous path.

 

There are so many examples, even recently. Am I the only one who recalls how Barack Obama's thugs carved that backwards B in to the woman's face last year? And then, yeah...

 

Or, alternatively, how an anti-abortion protestor was killed just a few weeks ago?

 

This could easily be a killing for political motives. Or, it could easily be that someone decided to rob the victim and thought he could throw the authorities off on the wrong path by making it look political.

 

Here's how I think you should look at it...if you think that Beck et al. are doing nothing wrong, that's fine. All I'll ask is what do you do if someone shoots up a building while screaming Beck's name? Or whatever. Do you guys think Beck is not playing with fire? I thing he is. If you think he's not, then tell me why.

 

Alternatively, to those who are already jumping on this as an example of what Beck has unleashed...what happens when it turns out the "B" was backwards for a reason?

 

and by the way, unless this dude was decomposing for 8 months, it was not well before any of the things we mentioned.

No, but his killer's brains were. And I think that's more the point I'm trying to say - well before the correlation of Beck and Baughmann.

 

We seriously should have let the south secede 150 years ago when we had the chance.

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To both sides here, my response is to urge caution. There's so little information out there so far, deliberately, that taking any political conclusion is going to lead you down a dangerous path.

 

There are so many examples, even recently. Am I the only one who recalls how Barack Obama's thugs carved that backwards B in to the woman's face last year? And then, yeah...

 

Or, alternatively, how an anti-abortion protestor was killed just a few weeks ago?

 

This could easily be a killing for political motives. Or, it could easily be that someone decided to rob the victim and thought he could throw the authorities off on the wrong path by making it look political.

 

Here's how I think you should look at it...if you think that Beck et al. are doing nothing wrong, that's fine. All I'll ask is what do you do if someone shoots up a building while screaming Beck's name? Or whatever. Do you guys think Beck is not playing with fire? I thing he is. If you think he's not, then tell me why.

 

Alternatively, to those who are already jumping on this as an example of what Beck has unleashed...what happens when it turns out the "B" was backwards for a reason?

 

So where were you during the Bush administration, when the exact same crap was going on in the violent hateful left wing of the Democratic party. I am the only one who remembers God Damn America and our President sitting in the audience for those types of sermons?

 

But it only encites people when the right wing does it?

 

You guys are freaking brain washed.

Did Rev. Wright have a national TV show and radio show or a seat in the Congress?

 

Did anyone outside of a handful of people on the south side know about his crazy rantings?

So where were you during the Bush administration, when the exact same crap was going on in the violent hateful left wing of the Democratic party.

I was mocking, rolling my eyes, and generally reacting with annoyance and/or disgust.

Probably because during the nineties when Clinton was the anti-christ et al the following happened:

Oklahoma City Bombing

Numerous abortion clinics bombed and doctors murdered (including a web site of their names and addresses where their names were marked off when they were killed)

 

and then as soon as Obama gets elected we have Tiller get killed.

 

What are your examples?

Did Rev. Wright have a national TV show and radio show or a seat in the Congress?

 

Did anyone outside of a handful of people on the south side know about his crazy rantings?

Our current president did.

I was mocking, rolling my eyes, and generally reacting with annoyance and/or disgust.

Sure you were.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So where were you during the Bush administration, when the exact same crap was going on in the violent hateful left wing of the Democratic party.

 

Most of the stink caused by the far left back then turned out to be true.

 

During the previous administration, on the other hand, the left insisted that Iraq didn't have WMD. This turned out to be true. The left insisted that there wasn't a connection between Saddam and 9/11. Also true. The left alleged that George W. Bush was incompetent. The rest of the nation caught up with the left when Katrina slammed into New Orleans, shattering the levees while Bush was eating cake with John McCain.

 

Some, but not all, of the left thought Bush had prior knowledge of the September 11th attacks. It's a matter of record that he knew an attack might be imminent based upon the famous PDB titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States." So that one was partially true.

 

The left also accused the administration of using illegal wiretaps, torture and other human rights violations. All true. Did Bush have business connections with the Bin Laden family? Yes. Did 100 Democratic members of Congress co-sponsor a bill calling him out for it? Of course not.

 

Link

 

Probably because during the nineties when Clinton was the anti-christ et al the following happened:

Oklahoma City Bombing

Numerous abortion clinics bombed and doctors murdered (including a web site of their names and addresses where their names were marked off when they were killed)

 

and then as soon as Obama gets elected we have Tiller get killed.

 

What are your examples?

 

And no violent left wing protests took place during the Bush administration? Are you serious?

I don't recall people bringing AK-47s to events where Bush spoke.

And no violent left wing protests took place during the Bush administration? Are you serious?

 

PROTESTS! YOU THINK WERE MAD ABOUT PROTESTS!

I don't recall people bringing AK-47s to events where Bush spoke.

 

How about bringing AK-47's to white polling places on election day?

I want to know why a god damn equivalency needs to be drawn for everything and people can't just talk about things like they are. Hence, this thread is trash.

I want to know why a god damn equivalency needs to be drawn for everything and people can't just talk about things like they are. Hence, this thread is trash.

Because liberals don't want to have a (MORAL) equivalancy, because that makes everything they do "right".

 

 

I want to know why a god damn equivalency needs to be drawn for everything and people can't just talk about things like they are. Hence, this thread is trash.

 

Because I am sick of a entire group of people being stereotyped when the same thing just happened for the last eight years. People need to quit acting like idiots are something new and this is simply happening because Barack Obama is the President.

Because liberals don't want to have a (MORAL) equivalancy, because that makes everything they do "right".

The general framework of Liberalism vs Conservatism is selflessness vs selfishness.

The general framework of Liberalism vs Conservatism is selflessness vs selfishness.

 

That is the most pathetic quote I have ever read.

 

 

That is the most pathetic quote I have ever read.

If only it weren't inherently true.

If only it weren't inherently true.

And that goes along exactly with the equivalancy bulls*** that's inherent throughout this thread.

 

You have NO CLUE what a conservative thinks if you think they're "selfish" compared to a liberal's "selfless", so you're talking out of your ass.

 

So where were you during the Bush administration, when the exact same crap was going on in the violent hateful left wing of the Democratic party. I am the only one who remembers God Damn America and our President sitting in the audience for those types of sermons?

 

But it only encites people when the right wing does it?

 

You guys are freaking brain washed.

There was nowhere near the violence.

And that goes along exactly with the equivalancy bulls*** that's inherent throughout this thread.

 

You have NO CLUE what a conservative thinks if you think they're "selfish" compared to a liberal's "selfless", so you're talking out of your ass.

My father is conservative. I know what he thinks.

 

Lower taxes so that YOU can have more money. Screw poor people. They're just lazy. In fact, screw everyone. It's all about amassing as much wealth for yourself as possible. Screw the environment if it doesn't help YOU somehow...preferably financially.

There was nowhere near the violence.

From your perspective, because you want it to be that way in your lens of the world. That way, ultra right wingers are kooks that demonstrate unstability that you want to see.

 

Kooks know no bias, they're just f***tards. But, people want to equate kooks with "right wing" because somehow it builds this morality that liberal thinking is "better".

 

On the flipside, you can reverse the words in my last sentance above - but you all don't want to admit that because it might make your ever changing view or "morality" incorrect.