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7/24 GT: Sox @ A's - 3:10 CDT - FOX

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 04:57 PM)
Then you have one powerful umbrella if it can take hail accelerated to 100+ mph.

 

Greg makes it hail on dem hoes.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:57 PM)
And I'm confident he will give up Hudson if he does get one of them.

Freddy Garcia and Tony Pena have proved today that they can handle the 4/5 spots in the rotation.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 09:57 PM)
And I'm confident he will give up Hudson if he does get one of them.

 

If it's Fielder, that's one thing. If he gives up Hudson or Beckham for Dunn, it will make me hate the front office's decision to not bring back Thome even more.

I f***ing hate the amount of foul territory in this park

I hate to give up, but I'm out into the hail/rain. I hope we rally to win somehow.

lets go omar, 2 out rally

There is absolutely no way he gives up Beckham, right? someone please tell me im right.

This offense really needs a spark. There's been a real lack of hard hit balls lately.

Farmer/DJ saying that the Sox look "Tired" today.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 04:58 PM)
If it's Fielder, that's one thing. If he gives up Hudson or Beckham for Dunn, it will make me hate the front office's decision to not bring back Thome even more.

 

I said the other day that playing in what's typically been a weak division has killed our farm during the KW era. It'd be nice to go into a season without glaring holes in which we have to overpay to shore them up.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 09:59 PM)
There is absolutely no way he gives up Beckham, right? someone please tell me im right.

 

I'm confident he won't. What KW needs to do is find a lefty bat that won't require him giving up Beckham and Hudson.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 10:00 PM)
Farmer/DJ saying that the Sox look "Tired" today.

 

Very much so

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 04:58 PM)
If it's Fielder, that's one thing. If he gives up Hudson or Beckham for Dunn, it will make me hate the front office's decision to not bring back Thome even more.

 

I'm fine with giving up Hudson if we get Fielder in return. In no way would I trade him for Dunn.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 10:01 PM)
I'm fine with giving up Hudson if we get Fielder in return. In no way would I trade him for Dunn.

 

Who would be our 5th starter the rest of the way (and don't forget the uncertainty that Garcia can hold up the rest of this season)

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 04:57 PM)
And I'm confident he will give up Hudson if he does get one of them.

 

And if he gives up Hudson or Beckman, I'm going to be very angry.

Unless you're bring me a signed and sealed Pujols.

And that ain't happening.

Get Dunn or Fielder in free agency, please don't give these guys up.

 

We were due for a real stinker. Oakland is a decent ballclub. Not great, but decent.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:01 PM)
I'm fine with giving up Hudson if we get Fielder in return.

I genuinely am feeling like this deal makes us worse this season. Fielder has been worth 3 wins above replacement this season (and has been only slightly below average in the field). Stuck at DH, he's probably worth another 2-3 wins above Kotsay. OTOH, if the 5th starter spot has 10 slots left, if all Hudson does is go .500, compared to Torres or Pena, that's gotta cost us 2-3 wins if we have to give him up.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:03 PM)
We were due for a real stinker. Oakland is a decent ballclub. Not great, but decent.

 

I love the potential of their starting rotation. But they seriously need some bats.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:03 PM)
We were due for a real stinker. Oakland is a decent ballclub. Not great, but decent.

 

I like the positive you. Let's win the series tomorrow.

I wouldn't be totally against Beckham for Fielder... as long as Fielder is resigned long term. Fielder has done more than Beckham. It would suck but to get a hitter of his caliber... man. Imagine that man hitting in the cell.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:02 PM)
Who would be our 5th starter the rest of the way (and don't forget the uncertainty that Garcia can hold up the rest of this season)

 

We would just have to live with somebody like Torres throwing BP every fifth day. I would be willing to live with that to get a guy like Fielder in his prime.

i'm still feeling come back.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:03 PM)
I genuinely am feeling like this deal makes us worse this season. Fielder has been worth 3 wins above replacement this season (and has been only slightly below average in the field). Stuck at DH, he's probably worth another 2-3 wins above Kotsay. OTOH, if the 5th starter spot has 10 slots left, if all Hudson does is go .500, compared to Torres or Pena, that's gotta cost us 2-3 wins if we have to give him up.

 

Oh snaps. Balta has hopped on the sabermetric train.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:02 PM)
Who would be our 5th starter the rest of the way (and don't forget the uncertainty that Garcia can hold up the rest of this season)

Torres has thrown 120 innings at CHarlotte and put up a 3.40 ERA. He has to be next in line.

 

Of course, you'd probably have to deal him as well.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 10:03 PM)
I genuinely am feeling like this deal makes us worse this season. Fielder has been worth 3 wins above replacement this season (and has been only slightly below average in the field). Stuck at DH, he's probably worth another 2-3 wins above Kotsay. OTOH, if the 5th starter spot has 10 slots left, if all Hudson does is go .500, compared to Torres or Pena, that's gotta cost us 2-3 wins if we have to give him up.

 

Well said, and I couldn't agree more. Realistically, Luke Scott should be our main target. Also, don't forget that Fielder doesn't really solve the issue that is "Carlos Quentin's fragility".

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