http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/...-land-dunn.html

 

Rogers mentions how Granderson and Swisher are on the market for pitching, especially if the Yanks miss out on Cliff Lee. He throws out the possibility of a Granderson for Edwin Jackson swap.

 

Granderson would provide the Sox with an athletic centerfielder and some pop from the left side. Grandy does have some flaws to his game, but he is a solid player.

 

Would you guys consider/make this deal?

Keep in mind that Granderson is coming off his two worse seasons in his career at 28 and 29. However, he's posted an OPS + over 100 for each of the past 4 years from centerfield.

 

Granderson would make 8M this year, 10M in 2012 and than there is a 13M (2M Buyout) option for him in 2013.

 

Defensively a Pierre/Granderson/Rios outfield would be stellar and athletic. However, offensively you'd be lacking in some areas. Granderson provides above average offense in CF, Pierre is solid (but obviously doesn't have the pop or super high OBP) and than Rios is talented but isn't a top level run producer either.

 

So with that the Sox would, imo, have a need to have some above average offensive production at DH or 1B.

I'd love Juan Pierre, Curtis Granderson and Alex Rios outfield, but to me we would have to find a masher for 1B, and have Quentin and Viciedo split DH duties while both of them could use occasional playing time one in RF and the other at 1B.

 

Focus on bullpen and a stopgap 5th starter until Sale is ready in the minors.

 

EDIT: Jason you pretty much beat me the punch with your second post.

Edited November 17, 201015 yr by justBLAZE

I probably wouldn't do it. Like Chisoxfan said, he has been on the decline during his "peak" years in baseball players career. I'd rather keep Edwin since he has shown us he can be lethal and is still young, while Granderson is surely on the decline.

Granderson is making a ton of money for someone who basically is a platoon player. Great guy, but very overrated. With the news on Peavy's health possibly being worse than expected (despite what KW is saying), I think you hold on to Jackson and if you're out of it at the deadline, you trade him.

I'd love Juan Pierre, Curtis Granderson and Alex Rios outfield, but to me we would have to find a masher for 1B, and have Quentin and Viciedo split DH duties while both of them could use occasional playing time one in RF and the other at 1B.

 

Focus on bullpen and a stopgap 5th starter until Sale is ready in the minors.

 

EDIT: Jason you pretty much beat me the punch with your second post.

I supposed if you believed in Quentin than you'd have your power hitting DH.

 

The issue is your rotation would have some holes. I could see some reasons to make this deal though, but it would depend on who you could bring in to fill the rotation. If Peavy was healthy I'd lean much more heavily to doing the deal. Because a front line of Peavy/Buehrle/Danks/Floyd is nice, but when you can't count on Peavy you than just have 3 starters plus Chris Sale.

 

That is a lot of spots to fill with little financial wiggle room. However, if you build yourself on pitching, that outfield combined with the defensive infield of Morel/Alexei/Becks/? would be really good.

Man... Granderson is intriguing.

 

If he could get anywhere close to his 2007 numbers while playing great defense... WOW.

 

But at the same time I'd hate to give up Edwin Jackson - ESPECIALLY to the Yanks.

Edited November 17, 201015 yr by Chet Kincaid

Curtis Granderson? The Sox always seem to be a couple years late. I wouldn't trade a starting pitcher for him at this point in his career

If Peavy's really out til June, I wouldn't want to trade Jackson.

Curtis Granderson? The Sox always seem to be a couple years late. I wouldn't trade a starting pitcher for him at this point in his career

Late? If anything this is good timing, get a talented player who is worth less than he was for years and not overpay while getting little production.

 

I don't know if I would trade EJax for him, but I would explore some options and see maybe what other pieces can be moved in addition to fill holes that a trade may create.

I'd love Juan Pierre, Curtis Granderson and Alex Rios outfield, but to me we would have to find a masher for 1B, and have Quentin and Viciedo split DH duties while both of them could use occasional playing time one in RF and the other at 1B.

 

Focus on bullpen and a stopgap 5th starter until Sale is ready in the minors.

 

EDIT: Jason you pretty much beat me the punch with your second post.

If you completed that trade you'd have to sign an Adam Dunn type player for power production since your OF isnt going to be much in the mashing category. However that is a very quick OF.

Is Dunn even passable at 1B?

Is Dunn even passable at 1B?

There is no reason Dunn couldn't play 1st decently enough.

There is no reason Dunn couldn't play 1st decently enough.

 

In fact Dunn has made it clear more than once that he wants to play the field and not DH only.

Say you make the trade and than let Konerko walk and replace him with Dunn (or keep Konerko). Offensively you are talking about:

 

Pierre - LF

Granderson - CF

Rios - RF

Morel - 3B

Ramirez - SS

Beckham - 2B

Dunn - 1B

Quentin - DH

? - C

 

That is a pretty damn good defensive unit with some pretty solid bats. The rotation would be iffy, because I don't think there is much money left but you'd have pretty much zero holes and your lack of power to an extent in the outfield would be made up by the production at 1st/DH.

 

I'd more and more intrigued by this completely hypothetical scenario. Also, against tough lefties you can sit Granderson and use Viciedo who can rake and slowly develop (Quentin would slide into the outfield in those situations).

There is no reason Dunn couldn't play 1st decently enough.

Beyond his total lack of athleticism and his apparent cluelessness in general, the guy doesn't even have any kind of real baseball instincts to fall back on. He's a fantastic monster of a hitter but even at first base his s***tiness in the field detracts seriously from his value. He's one of the few players in baseball who would actually get more money for himself if he stated he had no interest in playing the field.

There is no reason Dunn couldn't play 1st decently enough.

I respectfully disagree. Dunn is not very good at 1B at all from what I've seen.

Okay here's one: if we want K machines who can play CF, let's get Chris Young back. He produced an overall solid year last year, but he did come back from the minors and the money owed to him in the future is probably scary to the DBacks who right now appear intent on dumping just about every commitment they have. We might be able to get him cheaper than Granderson and for a lot less money too. Better yet, if you're going to go after Upton already, let's run out a Young-Rios-Upton OF and ruin s*** defensively. Send Juan's ass home.

Curtis Granderson? The Sox always seem to be a couple years late. I wouldn't trade a starting pitcher for him at this point in his career

 

Curtis Granderson is going to be 30 next year, and he's not exactly Jermaine Dye (which is to say, old, immobile, and washed up)

Does anyone else find it utterly comical that the guy's nickname is E-Jax?

Does anyone else find it utterly comical that the guy's nickname is E-Jax?

Not really; what am I missing? A Mortal Kombat reference? An Iliad reference?

Not really; what am I missing? A Mortal Kombat reference? An Iliad reference?

You're missing Occam's razor. It's a dick joke. Well, sort of.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?f...El%C4%81t\

You're missing Occam's razor. It's a dick joke. Well, sort of.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?f...El%C4%81t\

Ohhhhh a joke...I get jokes!

A lot of posts in this thread bashing Granderson.

Simply put: hes comparable to Rios, yet cheaper.

Granderson has had 5 straight years of 3+ RAW and is one of the better fielding CFs in the league. (better than Rios)

Yes hes a K machine, but calling him a platoon player is just silly.

 

Having one of the best overall outfields in the MLB is tempting, but I'd rather just re-sign Jones for RF...

Does anyone else find it utterly comical that the guy's nickname is E-Jax?

 

Went to school with a kid named "Eric Jackman". I was the kid who when he was late to class would yell "E-Jack, You late!". I got in trouble a lot in school.