There's just no way they should even be voting without getting a CBO preliminary scoring first...the ACA deliberations took 6-7 months, whereas this has basically been a 2 week process, and less than 24 hours without a CBO reading for the 'revised' House bill.

 

That's crazy, when you look at the potential impacts on tens of millions of Americans.

Edited March 23, 20179 yr by caulfield12

Some freedom Caucus members also want pre existing conditions rules removed.

 

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/844776309372837888

 

I have no way whatsoever of relating to these people's thought processes.

Range of 24-32 "no" votes across eight different media organization as of Thursday morning. GOP can only afford to lose 22 votes.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03...p-news&_r=0

 

Trending in the direction of more no's piling up than yes gains.

Edited March 23, 20179 yr by caulfield12

The New York Times ✔ @nytimes

Late GOP proposal could mean plans that cover aromatherapy but not chemotherapy

https://t.co/KzOOa2sEct

The latest health care cut Republicans are weighing, explained

http://www.vox.com/2017/3/22/15030214/esse...-reconciliation

 

Essential health benefits are dead:

 

Paul McLeod ✔ @pdmcleod

Right-wing of the GOP wanted those stripped but looks like they won't get it. Stripping essential health benefits, though, is done.

10:46 AM - 23 Mar 2017

 

Edited March 23, 20179 yr by StrangeSox

Don't drug companies still make billions upon billions of dollars even with the evil Obamacare in place? These politicians are so in bed with the lobbyists, you know something is up when Eli Lilly (a company wherer one of my best friends is pretty high up) is basically masterbating at the thought of it being repealed and replaced. Billions aren't enough. Only people that can afford to get well should get well.

Seems like it's DOA

 

https://twitter.com/AP/status/844964519847841793

 

The Associated Press‏Verified account

@AP

 

BREAKING: House Freedom Caucus chairman says "no deal" reached on health bill after meeting with Trump, putting vote in doubt.

Seems like it's DOA

 

https://twitter.com/AP/status/844964519847841793

President Bannon is getting upset.

National NOW ✔ @NationalNOW

Disgusting: The AHCA now has a clause that allows states to revoke Medicaid if a women hasn't gotten a job 8 weeks after giving birth!

5:45 PM - 22 Mar 2017

8 weeks? They should be working the next day!

 

EDIT: While we're at it, why isn't the infant working!?!

Edited March 23, 20179 yr by BigSqwert

It's like they've got a running bet on exactly how evil they can make a single bill.

 

A bill that no one wants

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/201...ipiac-ahca-poll

 

8 weeks? They should be working the next day!

 

EDIT: While we're at it, why isn't the infant working!?!

They are hiring at the coal mines.

 

 

The entire bill is a big f*** you to anyone whose life would be affected if they had hundreds of thousands less in their accounts.

Edited March 23, 20179 yr by Dick Allen

8 weeks? They should be working the next day!

 

EDIT: While we're at it, why isn't the infant working!?!

 

Ivanka will fix that one...bigly.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03...p-news&_r=0

According to the latest tally by NYT, they're at least 9 votes short. The big question now is whether they allow this to linger on through Monday or simply pull it.

Edited March 23, 20179 yr by caulfield12

Is there a Medicaid program only for pregnant women? How long do they get to stay on now?

Is there a Medicaid program only for pregnant women? How long do they get to stay on now?

There currently no work requirements for Medicaid. You can stay on it as long as you're poor enough to qualify.

 

The AHCA introduces work requirements to Medicaid (among many other terrible and damaging changes). That means if you're on Medicaid and you lose your job, you also get to lose your health insurance. Or, if you're pregnant and not working, you also get to lose your coverage shortly after giving birth.

 

edit: for a pretty good example of the harm work requirements can cause, check out what the end result of the 1990's welfare reforms were when the economy collapsed in 2008. Lots of harm, no real benefits.

Edited March 23, 20179 yr by StrangeSox

The headline on CNN right now is WH won't say if Trump will take blame if health care bill fails.

 

 

We could speculate.

 

 

lol, Trump take the blame. thats funny

 

There currently no work requirements for Medicaid. You can stay on it as long as you're poor enough to qualify.

 

The AHCA introduces work requirements to Medicaid (among many other terrible and damaging changes). That means if you're on Medicaid and you lose your job, you also get to lose your health insurance. Or, if you're pregnant and not working, you also get to lose your coverage shortly after giving birth.

 

edit: for a pretty good example of the harm work requirements can cause, check out what the end result of the 1990's welfare reforms were when the economy collapsed in 2008. Lots of harm, no real benefits.

 

Gotcha, thanks.

 

But hey, they just have to plan ahead now. It can't be that hard to find a job while 6 months pregnant, isn't that every employer's favorite demographic?

Supposedly there will be no vote today.

I can't imagine that showing the hard right Freedom Caucus you're willing to negotiate practically anything with them is going to be a good thing for the GOP or the country long term. Remember that this group is the same group that's 100% okay with blowing up the entire world economy by forcing a US debt default, and we're already into the Treasury using "extraordinary measures" as we've already hit the debt ceiling.

 

https://twitter.com/PattyMurray/status/845001919034732544

 

Senator Patty Murray‏Verified account

@PattyMurray

Senator Patty Murray Retweeted Vice President Pence

A rare look inside the GOP’s women’s health caucus.

 

 

 

Edited March 23, 20179 yr by StrangeSox

New CBO score out. Still just as awful in every way, except they somehow managed to make it reduce the deficit less.

 

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/845018201939435522

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/845018455455748100

https://twitter.com/mfcannon/status/845020749991743490

 

Michael F. Cannon‏

@mfcannon

Sources: House leadership threatens to pull bill to preserve #ObamaCare, and then blame House @freedomcaucus for ObamaCare still being law

 

please make this so

Essential health benefits now back off the table

 

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/845045291233501185

They're also messing with things so much that it might not even be eligible for reconciliation in the Senate

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obam...-is-next-236433

 

Six ways the GOP could still salvage health care vote