kjshoe04 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'm pretty sure a few people here would only be satisfied with this team if we had the best player in the league at every position and were paying the league minimum to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:38 PM) The ML team is sufficient for now. But we've got some bad contracts and no organizational depth. A playoff appearance would go a long way in alleviating those issues. But think about that...It's never a good thing when you're future is that predicated on making the playoffs. you just defined "all-in" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'll say it for the hundredth time, this roster is incredible and when everyone starts clicking things are going to be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Pena gone at least we have a chance now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) Can't. There's nobody. Still doesn't mean you don't shop him under the right circumstances. KW is going to have to get really creative or quit. He's put us in this mess. Well you have no choice but to be "all in" (I hate using the marketing campaign here but it's true). This is what you get when you draft low upside talent in the first round and refuse to spend money in the draft, but that's a whole nother debate  But to just dismiss how good Rios is compared to the rest of the league because he is owed a lot of money is just foolish. Especially when this year and possibly next might really be your last years to compete before the real rebuild starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 NICE CATCH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think santos could be a good closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Pierre is off the books next year, the only guys who make more than 10mil are Rios, Dunn, Peavy and Konerko, with Konerko only having 1 more year before going down to 6.5 and Peavy also only having 1 more year. Â In 2013 the Sox only have $51mil committed. Â Not sure what bad contracts there are. Â And in terms of farm, since Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura and that crew the Sox farm has been pretty bad, I just never expect the Sox prospects to do well. Thats just how it is, should be thankful we have Beckham, Sale, Santos, etc. Â 2 years of development, draft and trade is a lifetime for a baseball executive, I see no reason at all to worry outside of the fact attendance is so low. Â And the overall negativity of a fan base, because that concerns me about attendance even more. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 NICE CATCH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:42 PM) Well you have no choice but to be "all in" (I hate using the marketing campaign here but it's true). This is what you get when you draft low upside talent in the first round and refuse to spend money in the draft, but that's a whole nother debate But to just dismiss how good Rios is compared to the rest of the league because he is owed a lot of money is just foolish. Especially when this year and possibly next might really be your last years to compete before the real rebuild starts.  How would Mike Trout look right about now? I know, I know. Hindsight. But what are you paying your scouts, ect for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyRedGloveSWAG Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Did I just here a fan on t.v. say "c'mon ***hole catch it" before the out made by Pierre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:44 AM) And the overall negativity of a fan base, because that concerns me about attendance even more. Â It's really puzzling why fans aren't showing up right now. Won't get much better with Bulls postseason run coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:38 PM) The ML team is sufficient for now. But we've got some bad contracts and no organizational depth. A playoff appearance would go a long way in alleviating those issues. But think about that...It's never a good thing when you're future is that predicated on making the playoffs. I know it seems I am piling on you, I promise I'm not actively, but does a simple playoff appearance alleviate org depth issues? No doubt playoff appearances = extra money but as I stated earlier, this team just doesn't spend in the draft. Â Further, as die hard sox fans like we are, you should never be satisfied with making the playoffs. I want rings, banners, and parades every damn year. That is what we should expect, not merely playoff appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:45 AM) How would Mike Trout look right about now? I know, I know. Hindsight. But what are you paying your scouts, ect for? Â He'd probably look like Jonathan Broxton or someone like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Correct me if im wrong but havent we drafted Beckham, Sale and Mitchell in the first round? Â Arent those generally considered pretty good picks? Â Baseball is one of the hardest things to draft, Tampa had what seems like hundreds of high first round picks and so many flamed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Way to bury that slider! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:45 PM) It's really puzzling why fans aren't showing up right now. Won't get much better with Bulls postseason run coming up. Â Don't forget about the Hawks repeat trip to the Stanley Cup Finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:45 PM) It's really puzzling why fans aren't showing up right now. Won't get much better with Bulls postseason run coming up. Â It is a night game in April and Oakland not that big a draw. Sox should not have a 10 game homestand this early in the year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Mike Trout would have broken his ankle in spring training, or gotten a torn labrum or something if we drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:45 PM) How would Mike Trout look right about now? I know, I know. Hindsight. But what are you paying your scouts, ect for? Would look great. To be fair, lots of teams passed on him, as he was playing high school ball in New Jersey and because of the short and cold spring, many teams did not see him enough. Â On a side note, the Angels scouting director who drafted him was fired this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Remind me again why Sergio isn't the closer...or Chris Sale, or...#%$#@%$# never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:47 AM) It is a night game in April and Oakland not that big a draw. Sox should not have a 10 game homestand this early in the year anyway. Â I'm not expecting 30k, but the crowds the last two nights have been really poor. Normally I wouldn't care so much, but with all the emphasis put on it by JR and KW, it's disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:48 PM) Would look great. To be fair, lots of teams passed on him, as he was playing high school ball in New Jersey and because of the short and cold spring, many teams did not see him enough. On a side note, the Angels scouting director who drafted him was fired this off season.  Hi how are you doing, my name is Ryan Sweeney!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:46 PM) I know it seems I am piling on you, I promise I'm not actively, but does a simple playoff appearance alleviate org depth issues? No doubt playoff appearances = extra money but as I stated earlier, this team just doesn't spend in the draft. Further, as die hard sox fans like we are, you should never be satisfied with making the playoffs. I want rings, banners, and parades every damn year. That is what we should expect, not merely playoff appearances.  You should know me by now. I'm the last one that is satisfied with only getting to the playoffs.   QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:47 PM) Correct me if im wrong but havent we drafted Beckham, Sale and Mitchell in the first round? Arent those generally considered pretty good picks?  Baseball is one of the hardest things to draft, Tampa had what seems like hundreds of high first round picks and so many flamed out.  Mitchell was. Though extremely raw. And the injury last year has set him back big time. Sale has yet to be determined until if/when he starts.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:45 PM) How would Mike Trout look right about now? I know, I know. Hindsight. But what are you paying your scouts, ect for? Who's to say Mike Trout is going to be any good? He hasn't proven a thing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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