Bynum's a walking injury at the ripe old age of 23. I can't imagine how poorly he's going to age. And he's a dickhead to boot. The Lakers should get rid of him. You don't need a true center to win in this league anymore. Not that I would deal him straight up for the 2, but I'd definitely deal him.

 

True about his injury history. But the Lakers have probably a 1-2 year window in which to win another title while Kobe is still a top 5-ish player. He'll be 33 when next season starts and he's clearly not the player he was just a few years ago. No player they can take at #2 in this draft offers them more upside in the short-term than a healthy Bynum does.

True about his injury history. But the Lakers have probably a 1-2 year window in which to win another title while Kobe is still a top 5-ish player. He'll be 33 when next season starts and he's clearly not the player he was just a few years ago. No player they can take at #2 in this draft offers them more upside in the short-term than a healthy Bynum does.

 

I think both are true but a center has a lot of value. Are there instances of a very injury prone player early in their career overcoming those and providing a stable 6 prime years?

I think both are true but a center has a lot of value. Are there instances of a very injury prone player early in their career overcoming those and providing a stable 6 prime years?

Lets see if Luol Deng can do it.

I think both are true but a center has a lot of value. Are there instances of a very injury prone player early in their career overcoming those and providing a stable 6 prime years?

 

Not off the top of my head. And I know a center has a lot of value. I think Bynum's floor is around 15/10. If he didn't have to take such a backseat offensively to Kobe and Gasol, I think 20 PPG on elite efficiency would be a cinch. All I'm saying is the Lakers aren't playing for the future. There goal next year is to get back to the finals and win it. Nobody in this draft will help them accomplish that goal more so than Bynum.

Lets see if Luol Deng can do it.

 

Deng had calf strains, Bynum has had surgery on both knees. I think Deng has a much better chance of staying healthy

Today's talk:

 

Suns and Wolves talked about Nash for #2 pick

 

Spurs dangling Tony Parker for a high lottery pick.

Today's talk:

 

Suns and Wolves talked about Nash for #2 pick

 

Spurs dangling Tony Parker for a high lottery pick.

The Timberwolves aren't going to win any time soon. Why Nash?

 

The Spurs better get a good player back along with that lottery pick.

The Timberwolves aren't going to win any time soon. Why Nash?

1 year remaining on contract, $11 million + on there, "Mentor" to Ricky Rubio?

1 year remaining on contract, $11 million + on there, "Mentor" to Ricky Rubio?

 

I definitely thought about that point after my post, but it seems like a bit of a stretch.

Edited June 22, 201114 yr by chw42

Oof, that's such a slap in the face to Nash. Send the poor guy to a contender. He's given the Suns franchise how many years? And good years at that.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21426...ker_Trade_Talks

 

Spurs are looking to lump Jefferson with Parker for a trade.

 

It looks like SA is jumping ship.

Today's talk:

 

Suns and Wolves talked about Nash for #2 pick

 

Spurs dangling Tony Parker for a high lottery pick.

 

It is interesting to see Minnesota described as "reluctant" to give up the second pick, when all we have heard about is them trading it.

Oof, that's such a slap in the face to Nash. Send the poor guy to a contender. He's given the Suns franchise how many years? And good years at that.

 

Article doesn't establish if it was anything more than twolves asking for nash and the suns declining.

I'm watching the 2001 NBA Draft on NBATV and it's simply depressing. Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler. Yuck.

 

I remember I wanted Loren Woods in the 2nd round SO bad and we took Sean Lampley. Not than Woods was any good either.

I'm watching the 2001 NBA Draft on NBATV and it's simply depressing. Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler. Yuck.

 

I remember I wanted Loren Woods in the 2nd round SO bad and we took Sean Lampley. Not than Woods was any good either.

 

haha, me too, so bad. I remember thinking woods was good enough that it was like the twolves didn't lose a first round pick.

Do you think any of the deals proposed have legs Felix?

 

The one which to me makes the most sense for Minny is probably Marcin Gortat plus 13 for 2, although Gortat needs a good pick and roll PG to be effective.

I'm sure plenty of them have legs in the sense that the Wolves are trying their hardest to get a difference maker for that #2 pick. Mostly, I think they're trying to move the #2 pick for a center and a lower pick that they can use on a shooting guard. I'm not convinced that's going to happen, though. I'd much rather just keep the pick, trade Beasley and move on.

 

As to your comment about Gortat, Rubio is a good pick and roll PG...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-w...t_rambis_062211

 

At least we don't have to worry about Rambis f***ing up Rubio now.

 

EDIT: Probably at least -- http://twitter.com/#!/JerryZgoda/statu...700640307609600

Edited June 23, 201114 yr by Felix

Latest NBADraft.net's mock has the Bulls taking Singler and Norris Cole. Please no Singler. I couldn't stand looking at him for years.

Who does everyone want the Bulls to select with their 2 1st rds, realistically that is? Give me Josh Shelby and JaJuan Johnson, and I'd be ecstatic.

Latest NBADraft.net's mock has the Bulls taking Singler and Norris Cole. Please no Singler. I couldn't stand looking at him for years.

 

Singler's bound to be terrible. No established jump shot, limited athleticism.

 

Johnson and Harper are much better picks.

Did Kahn say something about taking Enes Kanter with the #2 pick?

 

Because DraftXpress' latest mock draft has Kanter going 2nd instead of Derrick Williams.

Did Kahn say something about taking Enes Kanter with the #2 pick?

 

Because DraftXpress' latest mock draft has Kanter going 2nd instead of Derrick Williams.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/30198774

 

I'd be surprised if they didn't take Williams (assuming the pick isn't traded and Irving goes #1), but I've been wrong before.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/30198774

 

I'd be surprised if they didn't take Williams (assuming the pick isn't traded and Irving goes #1), but I've been wrong before.

 

We've all been wrong before when it comes to David Kahn's drafting.

One way or another, I fully expect the pick to be traded. Probably won't get the type of return Kahn wants either, but I don't think he has the balls to take Williams with Beasley already on the roster.

One way or another, I fully expect the pick to be traded. Probably won't get the type of return Kahn wants either, but I don't think he has the balls to take Williams with Beasley already on the roster.

I agree. Beasley's an inefficient chucker though.