http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2...owners-players/

 

Dear god that would be awful. Just as a reference point, the Bulls payroll for 2011-2012 is $60,726,162 for ONLY 10 players (Boozer, Deng, Rose, Noah, Korver, Brewer, Watson, Asik, Bogans and Gibson).

 

And the Bulls have to re-sign Rose to a max deal. This is gonna be a long long long winter without any basketball.

 

One, that will never happen. But 2, without guaranteed contracts it gets a lot easier to not give a s*** about possible bad contracts.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2...owners-players/

 

Dear god that would be awful. Just as a reference point, the Bulls payroll for 2011-2012 is $60,726,162 for ONLY 10 players (Boozer, Deng, Rose, Noah, Korver, Brewer, Watson, Asik, Bogans and Gibson).

 

And the Bulls have to re-sign Rose to a max deal. This is gonna be a long long long winter without any basketball.

 

Yep, I've basically come to the realization that the season will not start on time. Best-case scenario would be for a repeat of '99 and getting 50 games in. But that's even doubtful.

Yep, I've basically come to the realization that the season will not start on time. Best-case scenario would be for a repeat of '99 and getting 50 games in. But that's even doubtful.

IF the league gets that many games in, it's because the union broke, and the proposal we just read probably will look like what we'll actually see.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2...owners-players/

 

Dear god that would be awful. Just as a reference point, the Bulls payroll for 2011-2012 is $60,726,162 for ONLY 10 players (Boozer, Deng, Rose, Noah, Korver, Brewer, Watson, Asik, Bogans and Gibson).

 

And the Bulls have to re-sign Rose to a max deal. This is gonna be a long long long winter without any basketball.

Remember...whatever the "Max deal" is would obviously change in this situation (no team can get by with a guy on a $17 million deal if the cap is $45 million).

Remember...whatever the "Max deal" is would obviously change in this situation (no team can get by with a guy on a $17 million deal if the cap is $45 million).

Yeah that's very true. And obviously the league won't look like that first proposal b/c there is no way the players will agree to that.

One, that will never happen. But 2, without guaranteed contracts it gets a lot easier to not give a s*** about possible bad contracts.

Exactly. The bulls could easily dump Boozer or Noah and get even further below the cap.

Gone for 2 weeks and nothing changes.

 

I missed SoxTalk.

 

Like the Mirotic draft-and-stash and if we get a guy who can spell Deng and play D at 30, I can live with that.

Gone for 2 weeks and nothing changes.

 

I missed SoxTalk.

 

Like the Mirotic draft-and-stash and if we get a guy who can spell Deng and play D at 30, I can live with that.

I could see an MLB style cap structure where the "soft cap" is 45 million, but if you go over you have to pay $ for $ into a revenue sharing structure.

 

And yes, a hard cap would HAVE to be phased in. Teams are not going to want to cut their key players to make the cap (even if they plan on resigning them), there's too much of a risk they might walk to another team. and even with a 33% reduction in pay, any team currently over $67.164 million in payroll would be destroyed overnight.

Gone for 2 weeks and nothing changes.

 

I missed SoxTalk.

 

Like the Mirotic draft-and-stash and if we get a guy who can spell Deng and play D at 30, I can live with that.

 

Nothing will change until the CBA gets fixed. If you were expecting something new, I wouldn't click into this thread until after an agreement was reached.

I could see an MLB style cap structure where the "soft cap" is 45 million, but if you go over you have to pay $ for $ into a revenue sharing structure.

This is exactly what they currently have right now.

Nothing will change until the CBA gets fixed. If you were expecting something new, I wouldn't click into this thread until after an agreement was reached.

 

By nothing changes I mean J4L's pessimism, Felix busting out stats, Steve arguing with Felix, etc.

This is exactly what they currently have right now.

Right, but a lower cap could increase the amount of money that goes around.

 

Personally, I dont want to see rev sharing because I just dont think it really helps all that much. I want to see contraction of the weak financial teams, but that wont happen. Contract the Bucks, Hornets, and Kings for starters.

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By nothing changes I mean J4L's pessimism, Felix busting out stats, Steve arguing with Felix, etc.

 

Ah, I gotcha. Disregard then!

By nothing changes I mean J4L's pessimism, Felix busting out stats, Steve arguing with Felix, etc.

Something did change, Steve busted out a bar graph

Well, it's deadline night. Should we just change this thread name to the official 2011 NBA Lockout thread or do we want a separate thread?

Hmph. Portland tendered Oden an $8.8 million qualifying offer before the deadline. Assuming restricted free agents still exist whenever things settle, that's a lot of money to tender a guy like that.

 

Although it does mean he won't end up signing with the Heat like I thought he would

I remember the NBA. It's too bad we might lose an entire year of D-Rose development on the court in actual game situations.

I remember the NBA. It's too bad we might lose an entire year of D-Rose development on the court in actual game situations.

It's possible that an extra 6 months off from competitive, 100% give it your all basketball will wind up being a good thing for his health years down the road.

It's possible that an extra 6 months off from competitive, 100% give it your all basketball will wind up being a good thing for his health years down the road.

 

The problem is it will do the same for everyone else as well.

The problem is it will do the same for everyone else as well.

Except I care about it a lot more for a guy like Rose...came into the league as a college sophomore, lotta miles on the odometer early, guy who is more effective when he is drawing contact and who always has the ball in his hands.

Except I care about it a lot more for a guy like Rose...came into the league as a college sophomore, lotta miles on the odometer early, guy who is more effective when he is drawing contact and who always has the ball in his hands.

 

It also means that someone like LeBron or Kobe could get the most millage out of this.

It also means that someone like LeBron or Kobe could get the most millage out of this.

Ahem...(Clears throat)...Wade?

Ahem...(Clears throat)...Wade?

 

Wade at least played all of those years of college, which kept him at 40 games instead of 80.

Wade at least played all of those years of college, which kept him at 40 games instead of 80.

But...he's taken a fairly unique pounding. We've all seen that.