Because you are harming another person.

 

If you don't want to commit to one person and would like to be with 5, 10, 20, whatever, you're certainly free to do so. But don't enter a relationship with someone with the implicit idea being that you're going to be faithful if you're not going to be.

 

This. And I don't know why it needs to be more philosophical. It's a simple concept.

This. And I don't know why it needs to be more philosophical. It's a simple concept.

 

But cheaters don't think it's harming another person because in their minds their wife will never find out.

But cheaters don't think it's harming another person because in their minds their wife will never find out.

 

Which is almost worst IMO.

This. And I don't know why it needs to be more philosophical. It's a simple concept.

No, it's really not. You've just never thought of it any other way.

 

You're saying it is a simple concept to just pronounce JFK or Jackie Kennedy (as well as anyone else that has ever cheated on someone) a "bad person"?

Edited August 12, 201114 yr by iamshack

Good people can do bad things and vice versa.

 

Also I don't think I buy the "they cheated on their spouse, so they've no qualms in screwing everyone else over" idea

But cheaters don't think it's harming another person because in their minds their wife will never find out.

 

Which is, of course, nonsense.

 

ugh. we've all been cheated on, most of us have cheated.

 

do any of you feel MLK jr was a bad person? even if he did act rather lasciviously with women? can any of you honestly say that?

 

the two ARE NOT mutually exclusive. you can be a great man, a great leader, a great hero, accomplish great things, and still have a vice. all of us do. none of us is perfect.

No, it's really not. You've just never thought of it any other way.

 

You're saying it is a simple concept to just pronounce JFK or Jackie Kennedy (as well as anyone else that has ever cheated on someone) a "bad person"?

 

Yes, dude. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. Anyone who intentionally hurts another person, whether or not they claim they're "ignorant" to the results, is a bad person.

ugh. we've all been cheated on, most of us have cheated.

 

do any of you feel MLK jr was a bad person? even if he did act rather lasciviously with women? can any of you honestly say that?

 

the two ARE NOT mutually exclusive. you can be a great man, a great leader, a great hero, accomplish great things, and still have a vice. all of us do. none of us is perfect.

 

Really? Is that how the mind of a cheater works? Because I assure you, I have never cheated on a person even a little. If you're talking about a board game, then yes, I've cheated. If it's something for money, I never cheat. I don't cheat when another person can be hurt by it. If it's just a fun game of checkers and the other person isn't paying attention, I may make an illegal move.

 

It's really not hard to not cheat.

Yes, dude. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. Anyone who intentionally hurts another person, whether or not they claim they're "ignorant" to the results, is a bad person.

Well you obviously just have your moral compass dialed-in super tight on this particular issue, because honestly, on here, you come off as a guy who doesn't give a flying f*** whether you hurt someone or not.

 

I've learned to understand your particular brand of humor, but you don't strike me as someone who is all that concerned about other's feelings.

 

And just as a disclaimer, I have honestly never cheated on any woman I was in an exclusive relationship with. I have been cheated on myself. I got over it, just like I get over all the other evil s*** human beings do to one another on a daily basis.

 

Some people, my guess is those who have been cheated on, seem to be extraordinarily sensitive in regards to this.

Well you obviously just have your moral compass dialed-in super tight on this particular issue, because honestly, on here, you come off as a guy who doesn't give a flying f*** whether you hurt someone or not.

 

I've learned to understand your particular brand of humor, but you don't strike me as someone who is all that concerned about other's feelings.

 

And just as a disclaimer, I have honestly never cheated on any woman I was in an exclusive relationship with. I have been cheated on myself. I got over it, just like I get over all the other evil s*** human beings do to one another on a daily basis.

 

Some people, my guess is those who have been cheated on, seem to be extraordinarily sensitive in regards to this.

 

As far as I know, it's never happened to me

 

But I think there's a large difference between arguing varying sports viewpoints on a message board/occasionally telling someone that they are morons and cheating on someone.

Really? Is that how the mind of a cheater works? Because I assure you, I have never cheated on a person even a little. If you're talking about a board game, then yes, I've cheated. If it's something for money, I never cheat. I don't cheat when another person can be hurt by it. If it's just a fun game of checkers and the other person isn't paying attention, I may make an illegal move.

 

It's really not hard to not cheat.

"the mind of a cheater"

 

what defines someone as a "cheater"? doing it once? does one misstep a cheater make? is it like the scarlet letter that brands you the rest of your life? no. no it was just a temporary lapse in judgment - something from which we all suffer.

 

sure, if someone like tiger goes and cheats over and over, that comes from something much deeper - an inner insecurity, a weakness, a character flaw - and then maybe you can condemn him. but not for one bad choice. one mistake. this is a shades of grey issue

However you need to justify it. Apparently we have much different sets of morals.

"the mind of a cheater"

 

what defines someone as a "cheater"? doing it once? does one misstep a cheater make? is it like the scarlet letter that brands you the rest of your life? no. no it was just a temporary lapse in judgment - something from which we all suffer.

 

sure, if someone like tiger goes and cheats over and over, that comes from something much deeper - an inner insecurity, a weakness, a character flaw - and then maybe you can condemn him. but not for one bad choice. one mistake. this is a shades of grey issue

 

I fail to see how cheating - a premeditated/calculated act - can be dismissed as just a "mistake" or "lapse in judgment" that shouldn't reflect who you are and what you stand for. If we're talking about your average joe, sure, it's not a lifetime ban on being a decent human being. But we're talking about people who run campaigns based on their decision making skills and their moral compass. I don't want any part of that in the people I elect.

Well you obviously just have your moral compass dialed-in super tight on this particular issue, because honestly, on here, you come off as a guy who doesn't give a flying f*** whether you hurt someone or not.

 

I've learned to understand your particular brand of humor, but you don't strike me as someone who is all that concerned about other's feelings.

 

And just as a disclaimer, I have honestly never cheated on any woman I was in an exclusive relationship with. I have been cheated on myself. I got over it, just like I get over all the other evil s*** human beings do to one another on a daily basis.

 

Some people, my guess is those who have been cheated on, seem to be extraordinarily sensitive in regards to this.

 

Ah but people on here sometimes assume different personality/alter ego than their real life.

Does greg refer to himself in the third person in real life which made one guy flip out and apparently get suspended a couple weeks ... perhaps, perhaps not.

 

I have never cheated on anybody but know a ton of cheaters and have not dumped them as friends or told their spouses. That may make me a bad person. I hope not.

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But we're talking about people who run campaigns based on their decision making skills and their moral compass. I don't want any part of that in the people I elect.

 

This.

This is a tough one.

 

One thing for sure is that cheating on a spouse and cheating on a girlfriend/boyfriend are on different levels. Cheating on your girlfriend or boyfriend is certainly very wrong, you're violating a present promise of exclusivity. However, cheating on a spouse is violating a perpetual commitment and to many it is a commitment not just to the spouse, but to God.

 

I am a bit forgiving and as a young person it is fresh in my mind how quickly one's entire perception of the world can change. To me, cheating on my high school girlfriend (by justifying to myself that she had frequently cheated on me) really changed the way I felt about the commitment to a significant other. I never wanted to feel that way again and I took all future relationships more seriously.

 

I think people can change. I also think it is possible to have a momentary lapse. Good people can do bad things.