September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) Im pretty sure were all siding with Spiegel. As for Oney....go away with your Dad. He's Cowley's source for most information. Of course he sides with him.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) LOL Only a Guillen would take the exact opposite from the situation. Everyone seems to think Cowley got butt raped, to put it lightly. But you have to admit too, Soxtalk is the last place anything involving Cowley could be judged fairly.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) But you have to admit too, Soxtalk is the last place anything involving Cowley could be judged fairly. I got texts from an assortment of my friends saying the same thing, and none of them post here.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) But you have to admit too, Soxtalk is the last place anything involving Cowley could be judged fairly. Where exactly could a hack like Cowley be judged fairly? A school for the deaf and blind?
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) But you have to admit too, Soxtalk is the last place anything involving Cowley could be judged fairly. Judging by the response of Score listeners and the other writers in town, they are making the same judgments.
September 2, 201114 yr The whole thing was a draw, IMO. The winner was the one you agree with. Both made valid points, and both sounded like irrational idiots. Nobody was going to be swayed by that whole little bit.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:58 PM) The whole thing was a draw, IMO. The winner was the one you agree with. Both made valid points, and both sounded like irrational idiots. Nobody was going to be swayed by that whole little bit. Most likely the case as always with these things. Waiting for podcast.
September 2, 201114 yr Speigel does come off as a douche as well, but Cowley really didn't do a damn thing to defend himself.
September 2, 201114 yr I did miss the part where Cowley called Speigel "The Jay Mariotti of radio". That was a spittake there.
September 2, 201114 yr Spiegal comes off as a goof. Basically blaming Cowley for reporting what he knows.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) Not much of a Speigel fan at all really much to do about nothing! Agreed. Loud and stupid.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Spiegal comes off as a goof. Basically blaming Cowley for reporting what he knows. Actually I agree with this. Although I have to admit living overseas I am not nearly as close to it as the majority of this board. But I didn't really see much of an issue that Cowley was saying there, if it's true that KW doesn't talk to him and the only way for him to get the story is to get info from Ozzie and others in the locker room.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) Not much of a Speigel fan at all really much to do about nothing! Ha, did you mean Much Ado about Nothing? Oh, Shakespeare.. I will be listening to this podcast in a bit, but I love that Cowley got put in his place (by most accounts). The guy is a major douche.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:06 PM) Actually I agree with this. Although I have to admit living overseas I am not nearly as close to it as the majority of this board. But I didn't really see much of an issue that Cowley was saying there, if it's true that KW doesn't talk to him and the only way for him to get the story is to get info from Ozzie and others in the locker room. The problem comes in presenting Ozzie's side of the story as the only side and as the complete truth and consistently bashing KW with petty personal insults. Just because Ozzie is your only source doesn't mean you need to parrot everything he says uncritically.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:07 PM) What's all of this "blow him up" stuff - KW's extra-marital activities? That was uncalled for by Cowley, basically throwing KW under the bus without saying it, and the comment regarding Toni Braxton was childish as well
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) The problem comes in presenting Ozzie's side of the story as the only side and as the complete truth and consistently bashing KW with petty personal insults. Just because Ozzie is your only source doesn't mean you need to parrot everything he says uncritically. And like I said earlier, why would Kenny talk to him when he knows Joe's objective it to run Kenny out of town for Ozzie? He flat out stated Ozzie wants him gone, Joe gives Kenny the 90-10 blame for what's gone on between them... Connecting the dots isn't difficult despite Joe's protests.
September 2, 201114 yr Where the hell is JR in all of this? Take some action for once. How many years of this crap between Ozzie, Kenny, and Marty34 do we have to live through?
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) The problem comes in presenting Ozzie's side of the story as the only side and as the complete truth and consistently bashing KW with petty personal insults. Just because Ozzie is your only source doesn't mean you need to parrot everything he says uncritically. It also does not mean it's untrue. According to Cowley, other reporters know what's going on and won't report it because they need Williams as a source. That would not surprise me at all.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) Where the hell is JR in all of this? Take some action for once. How many years of this crap between Ozzie, Kenny, and Marty34 do we have to live through? Hillarious! Kicking off your long weekend with a funny.
September 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) It also does not mean it's untrue. According to Cowley, other reporters know what's going on and won't report it because they need Williams as a source. That would not surprise me at all. That also doesn't make any sense. Don't they need Ozzie more as a source since they talk to him every day? Why would they write negatives about Oz then?
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