Anderson couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat... that's your other option.

 

And I was a Anderson fan, btw.

And I'll go to my grave saying that this team wins the 2006 AL Central if Anderson was treated as the everyday starter and not benched for Mackowiak starting in game 2 of the season.

Nothing can ever be Ozzie's fault, the only fair way to judge him is to give him the Yankee's roster.

And I'll go to my grave saying that this team wins the 2006 AL Central if Anderson was treated as the everyday starter and not benched for Mackowiak starting in game 2 of the season.

 

Then sir/maam, I will state you are wrong. I was one of the largest BA fans.. but, he was more hype than actually anything.

 

BTW.. I own a BA White Sox Jersey.. # 44. That is buried in my closet, and only bring it out when I move now!

 

EDIT: I take that back.. I alternate, I wear that and My signed Jose Canceso jersey and my New York Yankee Darryl Strawberry Jersey's... To my Fantasy Baseball Drafts!

Edited September 19, 201114 yr by VictoryMC98

its funny how everyone thinks its that simple. dunn blows and its may, june now july, dont play him. he clearly had to. just like the cubs with soriano and the giants with zito,etc. we arent there to see what ozzie is being told by jerry/kw. and just becuase kw comes out and says play whoever you want doesnt matter the money, yea i dont buy that. im sure ozzie would have loved to bench dunn in may.

 

When has Soriano ever been as bad as '11 Dunn? When has anybody ever been as bad as '11 Dunn? Barry Zito gets lambasted because he's getting paid like an ace when he's anything but. But he's still been, for the most part, a league-average pitcher during his time with the Giants. Adam Dunn defies explanation. He's quite possibly had the worst season of any pro athlete in any sport. I'm not sure how in touch you are with advanced metrics. Do you realize how bad you have to be to sport a -2.7 WAR? And to have him hit clean-up as often as he did? Failure! That's like running me out there intoxicated. That's like Della Reese entering a Miss America Pageant. You know something bad is going to happen. I don't care if Dunn was making minimum wage. He should not have been playing anywhere near as much as he was. That's all on Ozzie.

Edited September 19, 201114 yr by Jordan4life

Nothing can ever be Ozzie's fault, the only fair way to judge him is to give him the Yankee's roster.

 

And in the "I hate Ozzie" camp, nothing is Kenny's fault.. All the bad roster moves is somehow Ozzie's.

Edited September 19, 201114 yr by VictoryMC98

And in the "I hate Ozzie" camp, nothing is Kenny's fault.. All the bad roster moves is somehow Kenny's.

 

That's pretty dumb since a majority of the people here would be happy if both were gone.

And I'll go to my grave saying that this team wins the 2006 AL Central if Anderson was treated as the everyday starter and not benched for Mackowiak starting in game 2 of the season.

 

I must agree. The '06 offense was potent enough to overcome the automatic out that was Brian Anderson as long as he took care of business in CF. Mackowiak should've been platooning in LF with Podsednik, who was April Juan Pierre bad for most of the second-half of that season.

Then sir/maam, I will state you are wrong. I was one of the largest BA fans.. but, he was more hype than actually anything.

 

BTW.. I own a BA White Sox Jersey.. # 44. That is buried in my closet, and only bring it out when I move now!

 

EDIT: I take that back.. I alternate, I wear that and My signed Jose Canceso jersey and my New York Yankee Darryl Strawberry Jersey's... To my Fantasy Baseball Drafts!

The one thing Anderson could do was field. He was having a Franklin Gutierrez worthy season with the glove in 2006 despite playing only 1/2 the time. By the time the 2nd half of the season rolled around, "Anderson would have had it" was code for "a lazy fly ball to CF".

 

Every damn time Mack was in CF, it was 1-3 runs given up. Every bloody time. And usually the ball he'd misplay would turn into extra bases, and a longer inning for the starter, and a couple earned runs for the starter since OF's never get charged for errors when they simply don't get to a ball that they ought to.

 

I'll go to my grave saying that deciding Mackowiak was a platoon CF by day 2 of the regular season and keeping it that way the whole year cost the Sox that division. I know UZR/win shares don't show it, but that's just how incredibly bad Mackowiak was out there. There might have been a game that season where he didn't cost them a run, but that's it.

That's pretty dumb since a majority of the people here would be happy if both were gone.

 

I have only seen the I hate Ozzie camp, not the Kenny is the problem camp here.

Edited September 19, 201114 yr by VictoryMC98

Ozzie Guillen was the one who put Rob ****ing Mackowiak and Darin Erstad in as his CF starters!!!!

 

He is also the one who kept running Jenks out there...

I have only seen the I hate Ozzie camp, not the Kenny is the problem camp here.

Have fun.

 

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And in the "I hate Ozzie" camp, nothing is Kenny's fault.. All the bad roster moves is somehow Ozzie's.

 

Is this Stevie Wonder masquerading as a White Sox fan? Who do you have typing for you?

Have fun.

 

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Thank you Balta, I stand corrected!

 

Well sit.. since I am at my desk at home.

Edited September 19, 201114 yr by VictoryMC98

Remember this one?

 

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78629

 

Yeah, we all just pick on Ozzie.

Remember this one?

 

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78629

 

Yeah, we all just pick on Ozzie.

 

You do realize, I have been here for 2 weeks, and lingered around maybe 2 weeks prior to joining? I didn't go, research every thread/post when stated that comment.

 

 

You do realize, I have been here for 2 weeks, and lingered around maybe 2 weeks prior to joining? I didn't go, research every thread/post when stated that comment.

 

Fair enough. There are a few people here that have been around MUCH longer than two weeks and seem to have this illusion that we despise Ozzie (I know I do) and absolve KW of any blame for the current mess.

You do realize, I have been here for 2 weeks, and lingered around maybe 2 weeks prior to joining? I didn't go, research every thread/post when stated that comment.

 

Yet you felt justified in saying no one ever blames KW for anything...

When has Soriano ever been as bad as '11 Dunn? When has anybody ever been as bad as '11 Dunn? Barry Zito gets lambasted because he's getting paid like an ace when he's anything but. But he's still been, for the most part, a league-average pitcher during his time with the Giants. Adam Dunn defies explanation. He's quite possibly had the worst season of any pro athlete in any sport. I'm not sure how in touch you are with advanced metrics. Do you realize how bad you have to be to sport a -2.7 WAR? And to have him hit clean-up as often as he did? Failure! That's like running me out there intoxicated. That's like Della Reese entering a Miss America Pageant. You know something bad is going to happen. I don't care if Dunn was making minimum wage. He should not have been playing anywhere near as much as he was. That's all on Ozzie.

im sure management was making him play dunn. they know hes done so why not just release him? because the money. not becuase ozzie

Yep, getting a pile of dog dung, and go.. make it gold.. yeah that's Ozzie's fault.

 

Reading you in this thread is hilarious. It's almost like you're pulling a Stephen Colbert, pretending to play the role of the people you're actually mocking.

Have fun.

 

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i wonder when that thread will be gone

im sure management was making him play dunn. they know hes done so why not just release him? because the money. not becuase ozzie

 

Well all except that Kenny said publicly that he didn't have to do so.

im sure management was making him play dunn. they know hes done so why not just release him? because the money. not becuase ozzie

 

Management publically stated that he should play the best players regardless of contract. There's also no reason to believe management forced Ozzie to PH Dunn in critical situations or to keep batting Rios 4th.

You do realize, I have been here for 2 weeks, and lingered around maybe 2 weeks prior to joining? I didn't go, research every thread/post when stated that comment.

 

But you sure as hell had no problem generalizing the feeling of the entire board.

im sure management was making him play dunn. they know hes done so why not just release him? because the money. not becuase ozzie

 

Oh, conjecture? That sounds about right. All we have to go off of is what we are told by the team and the writers. We were told that KW said to play the best players, regardless of salary. Since that makes Ozzie look a little worse, you make up a scenario. Awesome.

im sure management was making him play dunn. they know hes done so why not just release him? because the money. not becuase ozzie

 

I just can't imagine how that conversation could have possibly went. I mean did KW really go to Ozzie and say "I'm going to go to the media and publicly say that you need to play the best players no matter their salary but in reality I want you to continue to play Rios and Dunn even though I know they are statistically the worst 2 players in MLB right now. They cost way too much to just sit on the bench. They need to be on the field even if it costs the team wins."