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Carl Crawford vs. Adam Dunn: THE POLL!

Carl Crawford vs. Adam Dunn 59 members have voted

  1. 1. Who was the bigger bust?

    • Adam Dunn
      77%
      46
    • Carl Crawford
      8%
      5
    • Tie
      13%
      8

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Adam Dunn

4 years, $56 million - 14 million per season

 

GP: 122

AVG: .159

OBP: .292

SLG: .277

OPS: .569

HR: 11

RBI: 42

 

Carl Crawford

7 years, $142 million - 20.29 million per season

 

GP: 130

AVG: .255

OBP: .289

SLG: .405

OPS: .694

HR: 11

RBI: 56

 

So, considering contract, who was worse?

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:11 PM)
Crawford by a long shot.

I had to go with tie. Dunn's OPS dropped .330 points, while Crawford's dropped .157 points.

 

The difference in cost makes it a tie, in my book.

 

Adam Dunn slugged UNDER .300! Think about that!

just remember that either way, Theo Epstien is still a genius and KW is the worst GM in baseball

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:13 PM)
I had to go with tie. Dunn's OPS dropped .330 points, while Crawford's dropped .157 points.

 

The difference in cost makes it a tie, in my book.

 

Adam Dunn slugged UNDER .300! Think about that!

 

Yeah, if you are talking about just 2011 it has to be Dunn. Worst season in the history of baseball trumps all, regardless of deal.

 

If you are talking about worst contract in terms of his signing, it has to be Crawford.

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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:16 PM)
just remember that either way, Theo Epstien is still a genius and KW is the worst GM in baseball

This post is rather awesome.

According to Fangraphs Player Value, Crawford was $1.6 million this year, while Adam Dunn was -$13.1 million (you read that right). That means Adam Dunn underperformed his contract in the Fangraphs world by $27 million, Crawford by $19 million.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:27 PM)
According to Fangraphs Player Value, Crawford was $1.6 million this year, while Adam Dunn was -$13.1 million (you read that right). That means Adam Dunn underperformed his contract in the Fangraphs world by $27 million, Crawford by $19 million.

Wow. I read it right, yet I still can't believe it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:27 PM)
According to Fangraphs Player Value, Crawford was $1.6 million this year, while Adam Dunn was -$13.1 million (you read that right). That means Adam Dunn underperformed his contract in the Fangraphs world by $27 million, Crawford by $19 million.

 

Defense taken into consideration I assume?

 

Although CC's defense might have cost them a playoff spot last night.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 04:28 PM)
Wow. I read it right, yet I still can't believe it.

Dunn's defense, baserunning, and positional adjustments were all much worse than Crawford's, and that adds up.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:13 PM)
Adam Dunn slugged UNDER .300! Think about that!

I'd prefer not to.

 

Crawford's contract is worse but for whatever reason I feel like he's a better candidate for a bounce back season, though that's just a gut feeling.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 04:29 PM)
Defense taken into consideration I assume?

 

Although CC's defense might have cost them a playoff spot last night.

Yes, defense is counted, although Crawford was a slightly below average LF in terms of UZR this year. Dunn was a -5 run player at 1b. Crawford was also a more effective baserunner.

 

Big difference also is that Dunn played 1b and DH while Crawford played LF. You're supposed to get better production from 1b and DH than you do from LF.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:31 PM)
I'd prefer not to.

 

Crawford's contract is worse but for whatever reason I feel like he's a better candidate for a bounce back season, though that's just a gut feeling.

 

I feel the opposite. I think Crawford is just going to get eaten up in Boston. I just have the gut feeling that Dunn goes back to close to normal next year with a new manager and some time away from the game.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 02:38 PM)
I feel the opposite. I think Crawford is just going to get eaten up in Boston. I just have the gut feeling that Dunn goes back to close to normal next year with a new manager and some time away from the game.

 

And and offseason conditioning program....

I choose Joe Mauer

Rios vs. Crawford might be a more fair comparison.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 05:01 PM)
Rios vs. Crawford might be a more fair comparison.

Alex Rios was worth -$2.9 million in the fangraphs world and is paid $12 million. He underperformed his contract in the fangraphs world by $14.9 million, and thus is the bargain of the trio.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 04:05 PM)
Alex Rios was worth -$2.9 million in the fangraphs world and is paid $12 million. He underperformed his contract in the fangraphs world by $14.9 million, and thus is the bargain of the trio.

Yeah, but Rios is a lazy POS who doesn't throw his bat enough for my liking. Plus he's an awful interview.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 05:09 PM)
Yeah, but Rios is a lazy POS who doesn't throw his bat enough for my liking. Plus he's an awful interview.

Dunn is an awful interview too. Every 4th word he tries to utter is interrupted by the phrase "you know".

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 04:11 PM)
Dunn is an awful interview too. Every 4th word he tries to utter is interrupted by the phrase "you know".

He puts so much more effort into be interviews though. As he stumbles from phrase to phrase I find myself saying, " At least he's trying."

Edited by TaylorStSox

Crawford, contract considered and the fact that he was an A+ deal to Klaw while Paulie was a D.

There is so much bad with these two contracts.

Dunn and it's not even close.

QUOTE (Papa Tru @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:53 PM)
I choose Joe Mauer

 

Ding Ding Ding!!!! We have a winner!

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 03:08 PM)
Dunn and it's not even close.

Absolutely! .159.....unbelievable. 11 hrs and 42 rbi's?! Unthinkable.

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