I get your logic, as the center of the movie is a bad guy and everything. But if you're going strictly by the enemies of the main character, the villain would be the FBI or something

Or more likely the film doesn't contain a true villain. If the main character were Spider, then Tommy would be a villain.

Villains in film are defined differently than how Webster's defines it. To be a villain, Tommy would have to be cast against our main character with whom we are sympathetic. Tommy is the antithesis of villain in 'Goodfellas'.

 

Who's sympathetic to Henry Hill? I root against him each time.

Magneto was the final villain cut from my list. That was mostly due to the fact that I sort of agreed with his stance, and definitely rooted for him in First Class.

 

That's why I had him so high, he's so compelling.

 

You should never understand and root for a villain, but with Magneto, you do at times.

 

Yet he is still evil when it omes to his methods.

Just because someone's a villain, doesn't mean that you can't root for him.

Who's sympathetic to Henry Hill? I root against him each time.

That's kind of silly since you know he's just going to wind up miserable in suburbia each time.

That's kind of silly since you know he's just going to wind up miserable in suburbia each time.

 

I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, I got egg noodles and ketchup

I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, I got egg noodles and ketchup

f*** yeah you did... next time don't become a cokehead

That's kind of silly since you know he's just going to wind up miserable in suburbia each time.

 

Haha it must be like watching the 1985 Super Bowl over and over again and rooting against the Patriots. I would think after you know the result there would be no need to root for either side anymore.

It's more a figure of speech, haha. I'm just saying I'm glad he ends up miserable in the end.

I'll have more up tonight after work. Around 11.

None tonight? Just checking, not pushing.

I got home late, going to bed. This weekend has sucked for doing the lists.

Pittshoganerkoff, you son of a b****! I wanted to have Gus the highest, but I had him at #2. Who was the third person who voted for him, and how high?

Pittshoganerkoff, you son of a b****! I wanted to have Gus the highest, but I had him at #2. Who was the third person who voted for him, and how high?

 

I think I had him #3, but just to piss you off

I think I had him #3, but just to piss you off

 

Did you really vote for him, though?

Did you really vote for him, though?

No, totally slipped my mind. I sucked at this list.

I thought about Fring about an hour after I submitted my list. Would've been top 10 for me.

Pittshoganerkoff, you son of a b****! I wanted to have Gus the highest, but I had him at #2. Who was the third person who voted for him, and how high?

 

I had him on my list I think around 8-10

Pittshoganerkoff, you son of a b****! I wanted to have Gus the highest, but I had him at #2. Who was the third person who voted for him, and how high?

I really expected him to get more votes.

I really expected him to get more votes.

 

Same here.

Voldemort really, guys?

 

And the Saw franchise is terrible, but that discussion has been rehashed over and over on this board.

Voldemort really, guys?

 

And the Saw franchise is terrible, but that discussion has been rehashed over and over on this board.

Yes, really. Tom Riddle really made for quite a compelling Villain in the books. Really one dimensional in the movies though.

Yes, really. Tom Riddle really made for quite a compelling Villain in the books. Really one dimensional in the movies though.

 

Ah, never read the books.

Ah, never read the books.

They don't really dig into his childhood and past quite as effectively in the movies.

Jigsaw is a terrific character.