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2012-2013 NFL Thread

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 01:52 PM)
So, a mixed bag then? Not all Bears fans making excuses for Cutler, but at least a "mixed bag's" worth of Bears fans making asinine attacks on Cutler for tearing his MCL but being too weak/a p****/not tough etc. to play through the pain? Because earlier you seemed to be implying that a good majority of Bears fans are always making excuses for Cutler and never criticizing him.

A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him, and still think he's a franchise QB. He isn't one yet. You can't dig up one thread on Soxtalk and say that is the majority opinion for Cutler's 4 years in Chicago. When he was acquired, people thought he was the Messiah. When some said back then he was Jeff George, people said no way. So far, he's been Jeff George.

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"A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him"

 

what, precisely, are you basing this on?

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:01 PM)
"A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him"

 

what, precisely, are you basing this on?

 

based on the view from his head in the ground.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:00 PM)
A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him, and still think he's a franchise QB. He isn't one yet. You can't dig up one thread on Soxtalk and say that is the majority opinion for Cutler's 4 years in Chicago. When he was acquired, people thought he was the Messiah. When some said back then he was Jeff George, people said no way. So far, he's been Jeff George.

 

Well if we cant dig up a thread with actual stated opinions, you cant just say "people said" this and that. Fine, he has been Jeff George. That does not mean he was coddled at all

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 01:57 PM)
As little as he targeted the TE's, it was too much.

 

How many interceptions were passes that were targeted at Marshall?

But the TE's on this roster are the worst players in the history of football.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:06 PM)
But the TE's on this roster are the worst players in the history of football.

I think he was agreeing with you.

A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him, and still think he's a franchise QB. He isn't one yet. You can't dig up one thread on Soxtalk and say that is the majority opinion for Cutler's 4 years in Chicago. When he was acquired, people thought he was the Messiah. When some said back then he was Jeff George, people said no way. So far, he's been Jeff George.

 

Career Win%

Jeff George .371

Jay Cutler .548

 

Career Completion%

Jeff George 57.9

Jay Cutler 60.8

 

Career Rating

Jeff George 80.4

Jay Cutler 84.0

 

Jay Cutler >> Jeff George

 

Even though Cutler was the 11th pick and George the first.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:07 PM)
I think he was agreeing with you.

Ahhh, now I read it differently.

 

Ok, then he is teh brilliants.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:10 PM)
Career Win%

Jeff George .371

Jay Cutler .548

 

Career Completion%

Jeff George 57.9

Jay Cutler 60.8

 

Career Rating

Jeff George 80.4

Jay Cutler 84.0

 

Jay Cutler >> Jeff George

 

Even though Cuter was the 11th pick and George the first.

Given the fact that Jeff George is known universally as a career failure and the fact that those numbers aren't exactly super-duper far apart is terrifying.

Given the fact that Jeff George is known universally as a career failure and the fact that those numbers aren't exactly super-duper far apart is terrifying.

 

3% is a significant difference in completion percentage.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:13 PM)
Given the fact that Jeff George is known universally as a career failure and the fact that those numbers aren't exactly super-duper far apart is terrifying.

 

The winning percentage is far enough apart. So there is that

 

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:18 PM)
The winning percentage is far enough apart. So there is that

George 1 playoff victory in 10 seasons, Cutler 1 playoff victory in 7 with a new coach and new OC coming. As for his passer rating, he's never been in the top 10 in any season. 20th this year, 16th last year, 11th in 2010, 21st in 2009, 16th in 2008 and 12th in 2007. There's enough there to say he's been average. He may be at a little lower end, but George's career, when you take everything into consideration, probably is considered average.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 11:45 AM)
The point is that he does have bad mechanics.

 

He does try to throw too much to Marshall.

And the new HC needs to drill this into Jay's skull.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 12:13 PM)
Given the fact that Jeff George is known universally as a career failure and the fact that those numbers aren't exactly super-duper far apart is terrifying.

Huge difference in winning %.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:54 PM)
George 1 playoff victory in 10 seasons, Cutler 1 playoff victory in 7 with a new coach and new OC coming. As for his passer rating, he's never been in the top 10 in any season. 20th this year, 16th last year, 11th in 2010, 21st in 2009, 16th in 2008 and 12th in 2007. There's enough there to say he's been average. He may be at a little lower end, but George's career, when you take everything into consideration, probably is considered average.

 

Did i not say that he is more Jeff George? What else do you want? A newspaper editorial taking Cutler to task? Would you like me to show up to camp next season to heckle him? A public hanging in town square?

 

I dont know what else to say. I havent even been defending Cutler, said nothing about his line excuses, said he has played s***ty against the pack, acknowledged the George comparison.

 

 

CUTLER HAS NOT BEEN UP TO SNUFF.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:10 PM)
I dont know what else to say. I havent even been defending Cutler, said nothing about his line excuses, said he has played s***ty against the pack, acknowledged the George comparison.

 

 

CUTLER HAS NOT BEEN UP TO SNUFF.

 

Cutler lover

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:14 PM)
Cutler lover

 

Lovie wanter

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:14 PM)
Cutler lover

 

^

 

I can't believe you are still making excuses for him...

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 01:05 PM)
Fans know far more about football than Terry Bradshaw or Boomer Esiason. Especially about what it takes to play QB.

 

I thought all the national guys ripping Cutler for bad mechanics stopped when Trent Dilfer decided to stop being so anti-Cutler last year.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:14 PM)
Lovie wanter

 

You just don't get the Bills. They ALWAYS get Bears retreads. First they had Jauron, then they had Wannestedt on as an assistant last year and DC this year. Lovie makes perfect chronological sense.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:19 PM)
You just don't get the Bills. They ALWAYS get Bears retreads. First they had Jauron, then they had Wannestedt on as an assistant last year and DC this year. Lovie makes perfect chronological sense.

 

Yea it does make sense. Maybe next year you will get some "Rex is my Quarterback"

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:23 PM)
Yea it does make sense. Maybe next year you will get some "Rex is my Quarterback"

 

I'm actually just going to be pissed off when he doesn't show any emotion on the sideline

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:29 AM)
Rex Ryan has a tattoo of his wife wearing only a Mark Sanchez jersey

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And she is Tebowing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:37 PM)
And she is Tebowing.

 

Under a shamrock! I get it now! Shamrock McElroy, Tebow(ing) wife wearing a Sanchez jersey! Translation: Worst tattoos EVER!

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